So, how much did he lose ?

[iusedtoberich]

I'm not on his FB and have heard zero about this, but I had a feeling I knew who Joey was talking about! ha ha.

Without clicking on the YouTube for more information, and only going by what was said in this thread, which was basically cheap sets of 100 turned into crazy money amounts, upwards of 50k.

My opinion is this: John pays 1000, and they call it even. When things escalate to super high amounts, its never real. Both players at that point know its all BS. What did the other guy have in his pocket? 500 maybe?

I'd wager a good amount of us lifetime junkies have had this happen to us. I had it happen when I was 19 or so. The main gambling game at our room was 2,5,10,15, and we normally played it at $5 per weigh. One guy who was always in the game and I knew had some money in general, wanted to play heads up with me for 20 per weigh. I got him down a bit, and we raised the bet every few games. I ended up ahead $8,000. Afterwards he says to me: "You know you are not getting all that, right?" I say: "Of course I know. How about we settle for 1000?" (which he had beat me for and I paid him about a month prior). He agreed. I never saw a dime, and I never saw him again.

Years later his younger brother started playing pool, and told me the older brother never showed his face again and never played pool again because he was embarrassed about the whole thing.

 

[MooseKnuckle]

Wow this is crazy.

 

[ideologist]

I'm not on his FB and have heard zero about this, but I had a feeling I knew who Joey was talking about! ha ha.

Without clicking on the YouTube for more information, and only going by what was said in this thread, which was basically cheap sets of 100 turned into crazy money amounts, upwards of 50k.

My opinion is this: John pays 1000, and they call it even. When things escalate to super high amounts, its never real. Both players at that point know its all BS. What did the other guy have in his pocket? 500 maybe?

I'd wager a good amount of us lifetime junkies have had this happen to us. I had it happen when I was 19 or so. The main gambling game at our room was 2,5,10,15, and we normally played it at $5 per weigh. One guy who was always in the game and I knew had some money in general, wanted to play heads up with me for 20 per weigh. I got him down a bit, and we raised the bet every few games. I ended up ahead $8,000. Afterwards he says to me: "You know you are not getting all that, right?" I say: "Of course I know. How about we settle for 1000?" (which he had beat me for and I paid him about a month prior). He agreed. I never saw a dime, and I never saw him again.

Years later his younger brother started playing pool, and told me the older brother never showed his face again and never played pool again because he was embarrassed about the whole thing.

He took sidebets with a bunch of guys online, it wasn't his opponent who got all of it

 

[white1]

I rarely get involved in threads like these, but no way

I'm not on his FB and have heard zero about this, but I had a feeling I knew who Joey was talking about! ha ha.

Without clicking on the YouTube for more information, and only going by what was said in this thread, which was basically cheap sets of 100 turned into crazy money amounts, upwards of 50k.

My opinion is this: John pays 1000, and they call it even. When things escalate to super high amounts, its never real. Both players at that point know its all BS. What did the other guy have in his pocket? 500 maybe?

I'd wager a good amount of us lifetime junkies have had this happen to us. I had it happen when I was 19 or so. The main gambling game at our room was 2,5,10,15, and we normally played it at $5 per weigh. One guy who was always in the game and I knew had some money in general, wanted to play heads up with me for 20 per weigh. I got him down a bit, and we raised the bet every few games. I ended up ahead $8,000. Afterwards he says to me: "You know you are not getting all that, right?" I say: "Of course I know. How about we settle for 1000?" (which he had beat me for and I paid him about a month prior). He agreed. I never saw a dime, and I never saw him again.

Years later his younger brother started playing pool, and told me the older brother never showed his face again and never played pool again because he was embarrassed about the whole thing.

That’s just wrong. I have also played and gambled my entire life.
John made the bet. John owes the money in full. Period. Whatever it takes-pay what you owe. Period. If it costs you your entire business, you pay what you owe.
Integrity/your word. That’s all you got. You break it. You lose it. Pay in full.
Figure the rest out. Anything short of that is unacceptable.

 

[PRED]

Hate it if they find him with one of his cases stuck up his pompous azz

 

[ribdoner]

Does anybody know if the actual match can be seen?

bump this up

 

[ShootingHank]

Damn...I feel bad for him because right now is not the time to be losing your ass off especially with this pandemic and he makes his cases from China too. Right now Americans are not buying anything from China because of them making all of our medical supplies.

We are starting to realize not to put money into that economy.

I hope he pays and puts this past him.

 

[ShootingHank]

He took all these side bets while gambling against another player.

Lost count of all the side bets. Probably too focus on the game.

Lost his butt off.

You can't be personally taking side bets while also playing. Too much things going on.

 

[iusedtoberich]

Do you guys really think the side betters thought they were going to get paid when he was down 20 or 30 or 40k? It doesn't matter what is "right" and what is "wrong". There comes a point in a pool game that gets out of hand that all the actors know its a sham. The actors in this case being JB, his opponent, and each and every side better. Forget about it and move on. That's the pool world.

 

[ShootingHank]

Hate it if they find him with one of his cases stuck up his pompous azz

He really lost his ass off.

He admitted to being belligerent and taking any and all bets.

 

[iusedtoberich]

Plus, lets not forget the JB angle. Probably a bunch of the side betters just wanted to get under his skin, and didn't care either way about paying or being paid. I'm not a JB fan for the record. But anyone who thinks they should be paid (in full or near full) has never spent time in a pool room, IMO.

 

[ShootingHank]

They were playing in a sauna too.

Hot humid garage.

Not good conditions.

Breeding ground for COVID19.

 

[ideologist]

You know who.
That is if he pays.

He probably had to pawn his jackpot cue

 

[ShootingHank]

He wanted to fit in with these guys.

So he threw big numbers out there and they took the bet.

The conditions were horrible and the guys were quarantine-ing and played nothing but pool for a month. He wasn't as sharp as those guys.

 

[jay helfert]

Here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljc7IhaE-xw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfZmemQLRfE

That was pathetic and also very sad. Sad to watch a beaten down man try to rationalize his failings. And to whom and for what purpose? His speech was not educational on any level. The only message here is for him to come to terms with his addictive personality before it's too late. John went off big time for a number he can't afford. I've seen this before and it usually does not end pretty. I've seen wealthy men lose their business and their family behind their inability to control their gambling habit. John needs to come to grips with that possibility, instead of asserting that it could have ended some other way.

A degenerate gambler cannot control himself. They do not know how or when to stop. In this scenario he could have easily quit many times before he lost a sum of money he could not afford to lose. I've had a taste of this in my life, once losing all the money I had in my bank account ($1,500) at age 19. Unlike John, I learned from that experience and never went off (or gambled) for an amount that I couldn't afford again. By now John should be older and wiser. He's no kid any more and has a lot of responsibilities.

A very smart gambler named Jack Perkins gave me a valuable lesson many years ago after seeing me lose money in the casino one night. The first thing he said was, "Take a look at all these lights," pointing out all the magnificent lighting on the casino floor. He then said, "You're paying the light bill for them! Is that what you really want to do with your hard earned money?" Jack went on to tell me something I never forgot, and this one is worth sharing. He said, "Every gambler always talks about being able to manage their money properly. But there's something far more important. It's being able to manage yourself!" In other words, without self control you are lost.

All that said, John does have a solution that might work in his favor this one time. Often a gambler who wins big and wants to be paid right away will accept a settlement, rather than being strung along for weeks or months. Typically that could look like fifty cents on the dollar if you pay now. My suggestion if he were to ask me (and he won't I'm sure) is to negotiate a settlement with those he owes money to and bite the bullet and pay them, rather than let it hang over his head for far too long.

Hopefully after he pays everyone off, he will realize that he has a gambling problem and needs to develop better self control before engaging himself in action again. This can be a learning experience for him or it can just be a bad experience that he will continue to excuse as a one-off thing that won't happen again.

 

[ShootingHank]

He said he was very vulnerable.

He wanted to stream and show the world but it wasn't good.

He cannot confirm or deny that his garage buddies were texting people to get him to side bet.

The bets were in the "stratosphere" as he states.

More emphasis on hot sauna garage.

It was a record breaking loss for him. Never has he lost so much. He says no money in the bank to even payoff his debt.

 

[JoeyInCali]

That was pathetic and also very sad. Sad to watch a beaten down man try to rationalize his failings. And to whom and for what purpose? His speech was not educational on any level. The only message here is for him to come to terms with his addictive personality before it's too late. John went off big time for a number he can't afford. I've seen this before and it usually does not end pretty. I've seen wealthy men lose their business and their family behind their inability to control their gambling. John needs to come to grips with that possibility, instead of asserting that it could have ended some other way.

A degenerate gambler cannot control himself. They do not know how or when to stop. In this scenario he could have easily quit many times before he lost so much money he put himself in jeopardy (although he is sure to deny that). I've had a taste of this in my life, once losing all the money I had in my bank account ($1,500) at age 19. Unlike John, I learned from that experience and never went off (or gambled) for an amount that I couldn't afford again.

A very smart gambler named Jack Perkins gave me a valuable lesson after seeing me lose money in the casino one night. The first thing he said was, "Take a look at all these lights," pointing out all the magnificent lighting on the casino floor. He then said, "You're paying the light bill for them! Is that what you really want to do with your hard earned money?" Jack went on to tell me something I never forgot, and this one is worth sharing. He said, "Every gambler always talks about being able to manage their money to be successful. But there's something far more important. It's being able to manage yourself!" In other words, without self control you are lost.

All that said, John does have a solution that might work in his favor this one time. Often a gambler who wins big and wants to be paid right away will accept a settlement, rather than be strung along for weeks or months. Typically that could look like fifty cents on the dollar if you pay now. My suggestion if he were to ask me (and he won't I'm sure) is to negotiate a settlement with hose he owes money to and get it taken care of quickly, rather than let it hang over his head too long.

Hopefully after he bites the bullet and pays everyone off, he will realize that he has a gambling problem and needs to develop better self control before engaging himself in action again. This can be a learning experience for him or it can just be a bad experience that he will continue to excuse as a one-off thing that won't happen again.

You wanna bet he'll be gambling AGAIN before he settles all accounts ?
You and I know this little fella who used to own a small place in Carson ( no need to name him ) .
We were there for a nice party with the three original Filipino team.
You came with Min Ng. We had chicken tinola and adobo.
The three greats played pusoy.
That little fella was the biggest gambler here for a very long time .
Kept going to Riverside to match up tough against all advice .
Ended up losing a ton of money and swore off gambling .
Pfft!
Still gambling .

Gambling is evil.
I've seen what it does to family members and friends.
I'm glad I quit it two+ decades ago.

 

[ShootingHank]

He lost his ass off the first night.

Came in the 2nd day more prepared and fresher outlook. Garage still hot as hell.

Lost his ass of again for the 2nd night.

 

[logical]

Part 3:

I am out of control.

I have a problem.

I need help.

Sent from the future.

 

[BeiberLvr]

So they were making high side bets, and not requiring anything to be posted or escrowed?