some advice please

From what i can see your stroke isnt bad but maybe shorten up your bridge a little. Not a bad out really nice run.
 
da_rookie_77 said:
this is a video of me playin a game of pool in my cuz'z garage if n e of you could watch n tell me what im doing wrong or right or n e thing it would be greatly appreciated. sorry for bad picture i used a webcam on a laptop so it was best i could do.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpVbLz0a4xk
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I'd suggest to remove the quarters holding tray. Those things are about as cheesy as it gets for bar tables.

And your break was loose. If you are consistently losing the cueball to your right, aim a hair to the left of the head ball next time.

I couldn't see enough of your body to make any other suggestions.

Fred
 
Well, the first thing I noticed was that you actually fouled on your third shot.

After the break you chose solids, and pocketed the red 3-ball. On the next shot you continued pocketing nr 15 ;)
 
actually i used the 3 to combo in a stripe but you cant see do to lack of a good camera so i couldnt widen out the view to see ther whole table
 
Break you addressed low and hit top. Try to shorten the bridge here and push cue through straight. You have a lot of up and down moving. Also one of the shots into the side it looks like you have some out to in motion in your stroke. Do you miss power shots to the left?
 
Well

Several things.

First I would recommend practicing the ghost 9 ball instead of 8 ball. 8 ball is too easy a game.

I see that you shoot with an open bridge and I would recommend using closed bridge as your standard bridge.

Ken
 
da_rookie_77 said:
actually i used the 3 to combo in a stripe but you cant see do to lack of a good camera so i couldnt widen out the view to see ther whole table
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Ah, ok. My bad :D

I liked your style, nice and fast rhytm. You have a good follow-through on your shot, but I would like to see you have the same shot-routine on every shot.

With that I mean that you should use 2 practise strokes on every shot, and fire on the third. You did that most of the time, but on some shots you did a couple of small practise strokes extra.

It might sound stupid, but if you try to create a shot-routine that works well for you, and repeat this on every shot you have no matter if it is easy or hard, you won't miss as many balls. Ralf Souquet and Niels Feijen are two great examples of players who do the exact same thing on every shot, no matter if it is hard or easy. It works for them.
 
Ken_4fun said:
Several things.

First I would recommend practicing the ghost 9 ball instead of 8 ball. 8 ball is too easy a game.

I see that you shoot with an open bridge and I would recommend using closed bridge as your standard bridge.

Ken
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i wouldn't call 8 ball an easier game. i just think that playing it by yourself kind of cheats you out of the safety part of the game. in the end game 8 ball safety play is important
 
Jason Robichaud said:
Break you addressed low and hit top.
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I don't know if you realized this, but most top breakers do this. Johnny Archer is the exception. He aims high and hits high. Other breakers like Franciso and Shane aim low and hit high, hitting the ball with a little or a lot of follow to stop and squat the cueball in place.

I think we had a recent thread on this with video stills for proof.

Fred
 
Ken_4fun said:
I see that you shoot with an open bridge and I would recommend using closed bridge as your standard bridge.

Ken
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He made every shot, and had relatively good control. Did you actually see something that suggested he should use a closed bridge?

Most of his shots I may have opted for the open bridge as well.

Fred <~~~ thinks the use of a good open hand bridge is a sign of a good stroke
 
All of this is good advice, but I wouldn't want to apply anything too critically based on 8 or 9 shots. Look for good information in books, magazines & tapes/dvd's - it's everywhere - from respected & known sources. Consider your results based on specific tasks that provide a measurably expectable result. If you can make the long straight in, for instance, at varying speeds & tip positions with regularity, and learn to apply that same stroke mechanic to all you do, then there's probably nothing wrong with your stroke, your bridge, or your stance. Teaching your mind to stay out of the way & let it happen - that's tough!
 
Cornerman said:
I don't know if you realized this, but most top breakers do this. Johnny Archer is the exception. He aims high and hits high. Other breakers like Franciso and Shane aim low and hit high, hitting the ball with a little or a lot of follow to stop and squat the cueball in place.

I think we had a recent thread on this with video stills for proof.

Fred
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Keep reading and let me know if that is what they do! He is hitting top of CB with and up motion on the cue. NO pro does that! They hit top, but through the CB into the table, which makes it like a center ball hit. No good player is trying for lots of top, its called a miss hit.

Also closed bridge is like saying stand up straighter like the old school guys. Open is better and most use it until power enters the loop.
 
Jason Robichaud said:
Keep reading and let me know if that is what they do! He is hitting top of CB with and up motion on the cue. NO pro does that! They hit top, but through the CB into the table, which makes it like a center ball hit. No good player is trying for lots of top, its called a miss hit.
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You said that he is aiming low and hitting top. That is exactly what most top breakers do, period.

It's just a matter of follow through as far as how it ends up "looking." If you hold the bridge hand over the cue, your cue will go to the bed of the cloth. If you open your hand, the shaft goes up. Both are very common among pros.

I think if you look at Colin Colenso's video on his power break, and his explanation of "breaking upwards," I think that's pretty much what da_rookie is doing.

I don't think you realize how much top most pros get when hitting (and getting) that squat break. Watching the TAR matchups using the measles ball, it is pretty evident just what that cueball is doing on the best squat breaks: spinning with follow in order to stop and squat.

Fred
 
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Good Out!

It's hard to give good advice by watching a single rack. But, what I've learned in the last few years where I was personally going wrong is to try and us the same stroke on most every shot and let the english that I use control the speed of the cueball. Newer players tend to baby balls or hit too hard rather than trying to learn the proper use of english to be able to control the cueball. Looks like your on the right track IMO. Good luck!
 
My only suggestions would be to evaluate your stroke and work on cue ball control during the break. Experiment with trying to get rid of the up and down motion in your stroke.

Your pattern play seems sound. Hey, you got out in one inning. I agree with others that it's difficult to measure your ability from one rack.

Best of luck.
 
Cornerman said:
You said that he is aiming low and hitting top. That is exactly what most top breakers do, period.

It's just a matter of follow through as far as how it ends up "looking." If you hold the bridge hand over the cue, your cue will go to the bed of the cloth. If you open your hand, the shaft goes up. Both are very common among pros.

I think if you look at Colin Colenso's video on his power break, and his explanation of "breaking upwards," I think that's pretty much what da_rookie is doing.

I don't think you realize how much top most pros get when hitting (and getting) that squat break. Watching the TAR matchups using the measles ball, it is pretty evident just what that cueball is doing on the best squat breaks: spinning with follow in order to stop and squat.

Fred
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Look at how hard they hit the ball, maybe then you will realize how little top they are playing. A tip above center hitting hard will put lots of top. Show me the videos of these guys playing top! I would love to see it.

I can hit and squat all day and I don't do it playing top.
 
I've watched it twice and it's hard for me to find anything to criticize. You have a nice smooth easy stroke and hit the balls no harder than necessary. Straining for a criticism, when you shot the 10 and bumped the 6, you took a chance on tying up the 8 ball. But you didn't tie it up, so maybe you knew you'd be ok. Nice shooting!
 
Nice shooting

Outside of up and down movement in your stroke there really wasn't anything to criticize. A closed bridge might solve that for you, but eventually you will use an open bridge so you might wanna concentrate on tip movement.

If you shoot like that all the time I wouldn't worry about a thing. Some times suggestions can do a lot more harm than good. Everyone is different and sometimes unorthodox things work best for some people. The best shot maker I have ever seen has a very unorthodox stance and stroke and yet I would pit his shot making ability against anyone in the world.
 
I was actually thinking of doing this today. I figured the best way for me to critique my play is to video tape it and then review. I need to get on that next week when I am off work.
 
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