Somebody bumps into your opponent...

Tramp Steamer said:
I appreciate your kind words, Vega, but no I'm not.
I'm just an old guy who mostly enjoys crawling into a storm drain so I can
look up through the grate as the young girls stroll down the sidewalk. :smile:
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been wondering why it was getting crowded . . .:grin:
 
Carma

If you go on to lose the match, you have an excuse. If you can still
manage to win it, quietly buy the interloper a drink (but don't get caught doing it).:)

RL
 
DFarren said:
I also agree with Lenny.

If I am in a situation where a governing body does not allow the replacement of a table's lay after an obstruction, such as a league event or a tournament venue, I will typically play an intentional foul into a free area so as not to disturb the current positioning and return the rightful shooter to the cue ball.
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Although this is a nice thought, I wouldn't do this. I am not going to give my opponent ball in hand in this situation.

I don't care what the rules are, I would let them reset the shot regardless of the rules.

However, I am not going to give them ball in hand in this situation.
 
Tramp Steamer said:
I appreciate your kind words, Vega, but no I'm not.
I'm just an old guy who mostly enjoys crawling into a storm drain so I can
look up through the grate as the young girls stroll down the sidewalk. :smile:
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You realize they have internet web sites for that, don't you...lol. Then you don't even have to leave your couch.

Just playing around.
 
Tramp Steamer said:
That very thing happened to a guy I once knew by the name of Joseph Ballantine. He was from Moline, Illinois, so everyone called him Moline Joe.
One night Joe was playing in a One Pocket tournament in nearby Rock Island, when out of nowhere, just as Joe was about to attempt a two-railer for the win, he was knocked sideways by a very large woman pushing a baby buggy. The collision caused his shot to err and sent the cueball to a location advantageous to his opponent.
As he was uttering the words, "What the f...", he realized it was his ex-wife Charlene, and their two year old son Alfred. A child whom Joe had spent little or no time with, nor had paid any support to.
Seizing the moment, Charlene grabbed a house cue from a nearby rack and promptly broke it over Joe's head, rendering him unconscious. Obviously a doting mother, she gave Joe another shot across the brow while screaming, "This one's for Alfred!"
Joe came to, a couple of hours later, and offered to finish the game but the guy he was playing had already gone home, saddened by the entire experience.
As to whether the balls should, or should not, be returned to their original positions may simply depend on how current you are with your child support payments. It certainly did with Joe. :smile:
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Literally Lmao :rotflmao:
 
I agree with the sportsmanship of a do-over or a re-rack if restoration isn't possible.

BTW, this is covered in the World Rules under 1.9 - Outside Interference:

1.9 Outside Interference
When outside interference occurs during a shot that has an effect on the outcome of that shot, the referee will restore the balls to the positions they had before the shot, and the shot will be replayed. If the interference had no effect on the shot, the referee will restore the disturbed balls and play will continue. If the balls cannot be restored to their original positions, the situation is handled like a stalemate.
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PhilosopherKing said:
How about this:

It's hill-hill, and your opponent is getting ready to shoot a low percentage shot on the 1-ball. As he's delivering his stroke, he gets bumped, makes an erratic but legal hit on the 1-ball, and inadvertantly pockets the 9-ball.

What then?
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What if you're the shooter in the above scenario? Do you claim the win? Do you again offer to reset the balls?
 
Tramp Steamer said:
That very thing happened to a guy I once knew by the name of Joseph Ballantine. He was from Moline, Illinois, so everyone called him Moline Joe.
One night Joe was playing in a One Pocket tournament in nearby Rock Island, when out of nowhere, just as Joe was about to attempt a two-railer for the win, he was knocked sideways by a very large woman pushing a baby buggy. The collision caused his shot to err and sent the cueball to a location advantageous to his opponent.
As he was uttering the words, "What the f...", he realized it was his ex-wife Charlene, and their two year old son Alfred. A child whom Joe had spent little or no time with, nor had paid any support to.
Seizing the moment, Charlene grabbed a house cue from a nearby rack and promptly broke it over Joe's head, rendering him unconscious. Obviously a doting mother, she gave Joe another shot across the brow while screaming, "This one's for Alfred!"
Joe came to, a couple of hours later, and offered to finish the game but the guy he was playing had already gone home, saddened by the entire experience.
As to whether the balls should, or should not, be returned to their original positions may simply depend on how current you are with your child support payments. It certainly did with Joe. :smile:
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I tried to give you rep for this....for making me laugh TWICE before I finished my first cup of caffeine...but I'm using my phone to check the boards this morning and it won't let me do it. Unless it did. In which case I have inadvertently given you half a dozen reps. :grin:
 
PhilosopherKing said:
causing him to foul or miss wildly... Tournament... Gambling... What do YOU do?
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This is a really good question. I've been bumped a lot by people hanging out around the tables, though usually only in bars. How its handled usually depends on the game - casual game with friends or playing for the all-important table rights for next game. With friends I always offer the option to reset the shot. They don't always take it. Anyone else, if they want to reset the shot I wouldn't say no, but I certainly wouldn't be the one to suggest it.
 
Classic..............


Tramp Steamer said:
That very thing happened to a guy I once knew by the name of Joseph Ballantine. He was from Moline, Illinois, so everyone called him Moline Joe.
One night Joe was playing in a One Pocket tournament in nearby Rock Island, when out of nowhere, just as Joe was about to attempt a two-railer for the win, he was knocked sideways by a very large woman pushing a baby buggy. The collision caused his shot to err and sent the cueball to a location advantageous to his opponent.
As he was uttering the words, "What the f...", he realized it was his ex-wife Charlene, and their two year old son Alfred. A child whom Joe had spent little or no time with, nor had paid any support to.
Seizing the moment, Charlene grabbed a house cue from a nearby rack and promptly broke it over Joe's head, rendering him unconscious. Obviously a doting mother, she gave Joe another shot across the brow while screaming, "This one's for Alfred!"
Joe came to, a couple of hours later, and offered to finish the game but the guy he was playing had already gone home, saddened by the entire experience.
As to whether the balls should, or should not, be returned to their original positions may simply depend on how current you are with your child support payments. It certainly did with Joe. :smile:
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Fast Lenny said:
I would try and reset the table where the balls were, just the right thing to do IMO.
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Agreed, I have done this playing for several 200 a game in one pocket before. I would hate to have that karma on me of taking advantage of a situation where my opponent was accidentally bumped mid stroke.

-don
 
Hidy Ho said:
Thanks .. I was looking for "official" stance on the matter.
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YM. And just to be clear, this situation is considered outside interference as noted in #22 of the WPA Regulations to the rules:

22. Outside Interference
See Rule 1.9, Outside Interference. The referee should ensure that interference is prevented, for example by a spectator or a player on an adjacent table, and may suspend play as needed. Interference may be physical or verbal.
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DogsPlayingPool said:
I agree with the sportsmanship of a do-over or a re-rack if restoration isn't possible.

BTW, this is covered in the World Rules under 1.9 - Outside Interference:
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Thanks for sharing! One of my team mates (APA) practically knocked me off my feet on my first game in the league. I did make my shot but I do wonder what the resolve had been if I had missed. He was all apologies for the rest of the night. And for what's it's worth he is blind in one eye, and he really didn't see me. None the less I was furious. Now I realize he runs over people every time we go out. And he is still blind in one eye, but most don't know it, don't understand and are generally annoyed with him. Specially now that people are starting to get familiarized with our team. I try my best to do damage control for him. Because, he is a good guy and I don't want to see him get hurt. He is one of my favorite coaches.

as for the earlier posts- Paying your child support is generally a good idea. :wink:
 
JuicyGirl said:
Thanks for sharing! One of my team mates (APA) practically knocked me off my feet on my first game in the league. I did make my shot but I do wonder what the resolve had been if I had missed. He was all apologies for the rest of the night. And for what's it's worth he is blind in one eye, and he really didn't see me. None the less I was furious. Now I realize he runs over people every time we go out. And he is still blind in one eye, but most don't know it, don't understand and are generally annoyed with him. Specially now that people are starting to get familiarized with our team. I try my best to do damage control for him. Because, he is a good guy and I don't want to see him get hurt. He is one of my favorite coaches.

as for the earlier posts- Paying your child support is generally a good idea. :wink:
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Your situation is interesting, JG. I'm not sure a teammate would be considered "outside" interference.
 
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