Sorry, I feel like being a dream-crushing tool

[Lonestar_jim]

I said learn, how, to, readddddd. I am not annoyed at his ambitions. I am annoyed at his delusions and attention seeking behavior.

Here's a perfect example for you here:

Michael Jordan (and probably only a few of you nitwits on here would dispute this) was/is one of the best athletes of all time. He tried to become a pro baseball player. He failed.

I would argue that he has a TOTALLY SUPERCALIPHUCKALISTIC lot more talent than Sam Lambert and even he couldn't just will himself toward a stupid goal. But I bet if he started playing baseball when he was 5 years old, he might have been a decent pitcher or something.

His quest does not affect me personally. I am a sadistic person. I enjoy crapping on unrealistic dreams. I told my cousin her daughter's drawings were terrible. Because they are. She was going on about how special she was, etc. No, Pablo Picasso's childhood drawings were special. Your daughter's are average to poor.

I inserted a bet into it, because it is easy money. If you told me you could levitate just by thinking about it, I would bet you can't. If you would bet me that you could become a pro pool player in your mid-20s with no discernible talent, I would bet you can't. If you thought you could beat a grizzly bear in a wrestling match, I would bet you can't.

This kid is clearly some kind of millennial sissy that has been told he's special his whole life. He hasn't yet figured out that life is a meaningless mishmash of pain, failure and occasionally decent dope and that most people are merely competent at what they do. The best thing anyone can hope for is that someone gives a crap when they die.

And that irritates me.

Just play pool because it distracts you from the fact that the earth is spinning really fast and you'll be dead soon and in 50 years no one will remember you were here, unless of course you're a hall of fame pool player

AND...
He said he was drunk u bunch cockroaches.

Why so serious ?

 

[Lonestar_jim]

Wow, this forum is full of bitter old men. Too bad we have to wait at least another 10 years for some of you buzzards to die off.

My advice to Sam, just enjoy the game. To be honest, it's not worth it to become a pro. Just ask one. I personally get the greatest enjoyment from practicing, sparring, and seeing myself get better. People are generally the worst part about pool. Based on what I said at the beginning of this comment, hopefully we won't have to deal with it much longer. Until then, figure out why you love this game and go do it.

Is this a death threat ?

What plans are you hatching for some of the members 10 years out ?

Bigotry appears to be alive and well here at AZB.

Misspent appears to use several literary devices that some are not picking up on. Or maybe he should be fast tracked to Jawhir's buzzard resting place.

As for the thread's Lambert has started, I don't read them. I did post in one that it was in the wrong sub-forum. Mostly sounds like bollox and trolling wrapped with a nice ribbon of over reaction and aiming method crap.

Maybe Shuffett will give Lambert free lessons once he makes pro status.

AZB main forum has been a dry gulch for years without aiming thread's, notwithstanding TOI.

And here is a closing question to all pool players: Do you use an aiming system when playing or just play by feel ?

Taking my Geritol and signing off.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Tell us how you really feel

Much of what you said I totally agree with.

Eh? I was expecting a volley of argument. Have you finally seen the light about talent? Last time around you were all for training lil old ladies to become pro standard by the time of their 900th birthday.

 

[Baron]

I love how the OP is fully challenging the whole internet to a duel right now lol

 

[(((Satori)))]

Something I think is sorely missing in Internet forums with all the keyboard toughguys:

Fights to the death.

I'm not sure about the legality of this, obviously illegal, but I'm sure something, somewhere could be worked out.

Magyar, if you would like me, after hearing a perfectly sensible opinion, to "Get a life," I challenge you to say that to my face in front of me, at my house, in my yard.

If you agree to it, we could draw up a contract, maybe get some people on here to livestream it and each put up 10K and I will bareknuckle fight you to the death.

Let me know if you're interested.

In fact I'll put this out there to anyone interested in the future. If I make a statement and it is true and you reply with something moronic, I challenge you to a deathmatch. 10K, livestream, etc. Maybe this could catch on and people would stop making wiseass comments. Because if you made that comment to my face in a bar, I would wait until you went to the bathroom and I would do terrible things to you.

Mods, please kick me off this board permanently. I hate everyone here. I appreciate the stuff azbtv does, UpState rules, etc., but the people on here are disgusting dimwits.

Ive seen it happen in mma forums before. It starts on the forum and then one guy ends up at the others gym for some heavy sparring. All it takes is to sign a release form.

 

[Poolplaya9]

Dear Sam Lambert,

I don't know you, but I used to kind of be like you when I was younger (maybe until I was @16 or so). And I've been drinking and I am a mean drunk that likes to hear himself talk.

You didn't ask for my advice, but your posts annoy me, so here goes:

Wanting to be a "pro" at something is fine. If you're 12. And if you have talent. You appear to be in your early twenties. Get a job.

I feel as though you, like Rhea and a few other people on here (probably myself at times too) write posts just so people will pay attention to them.

Like I said, I don't know you, but putting all of your energy into a spur of the moment obsession is a big red flag. More likely some area of your life deserves scrutiny. In the meantime, get a job.

Here are my general guidelines for becoming a pro pool player at your age:

1. Get a time machine and be as good as this kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcRYYTdkX2I here by the time you are 12.

2. If you aren't, then become an A player within the first few months of playing and you stand a slim chance. And then get another time machine to go back and have all the tournament and gambling experience that kid will have by the time he's your age.

3. If you can't do 1 or 2, then practice 16 to 18 hours a day, and if you aren't as good as a low level pro within one year, then you are not going to be. If you don't have the talent, then you, or anyone else on earth, no matter how much you practice, cannot become a pro. Sorry.

As regards #3, you might say, "How does he know this?" Well, first off, I have common sense. Second, I practiced 8, 10, 14 hours a day and I never got past a high B level. I don't have the talent. And from watching your videos, neither do you.

Can you get to shortstop level? Probably. But why would you want to? Even high level pro pool is a dead-end job except for the top ten players..

If you really love it, then go for it, but you should be willing to sacrifice absolutely everything--women, money, a career, your family, everything.

Do you have a killer instinct? I mean have total contempt for your opponent?
Do you absolutely pathologically hate to lose (I know a former NCAA tennis player that would flip over the monopoly board and threaten to kill you if you won-that's how bad you have to want to win)
Are you an amazing athlete at pretty much any sport you try?
Were you waaaayyy better than your peers as a child at any sport you tried?

If not, you won't be a pro. You are wasting your time.

All I'm saying is that your quest sounds pretty immature to me. My advice is practice enough to get real good, and get a job, go to school, get a girlfriend or boyfriend or a cat or whatever and leave me alone. I don't care about your pool quest. Only 16 year old girls want this kind of attention. But if you really love pool, then you won't care about anything I say here. In fact you'll use it as motivation.

One of the most masterfully written and on point posts here in quite some time. We need more people who bluntly but truthfully tell it like it really is and less coddling and babying people with feel good lies and fairy tales.

 

[poolmouse]

Kermit arguing with someone online...

 

[(((Satori)))]

Ive seen it happen in mma forums before. It starts on the forum and then one guy ends up at the others gym for some heavy sparring. All it takes is to sign a release form.

Screw it. I'll go ahead and tell a story about my one and only other gym challenge match lol because its pretty funny. It didnt start on the internet but how it started is just as wacky.

I grew up training from a young age training in boxing, Judo, Jiu-jitsu, then mma. I used to train around John Bartons backyard in Norman Oklahoma. Back then we had a lot of tough guys there. A lot of unknowns at the time. King Mo, Carlo Prater, a lot more, plus Frank Trigg was there, Evan Tanner, Ross Purity, it was also a world class Judo facility, plus Shane Hammon used to train there for his powerlifting. I was used to hard sparring and tough fights everyday so fighting was nothing big. Btw, Walden was my pool hero.


Anyways at work there was this loud mouth guy who trained kickboxing at a local kickboxing facility. He used to talk all kinds of shit about fighting and I would just listen. Then one day somehow he heard that I fought and so he started asking some dumb questions. I mean dumb. Somehow it turned into a who would win between me and Bruce Lee. Lol I told him Bruce Lee was ahead of his time but simply not on par with todays fighters. He laid in with the oh my god type comments. This guy thinks he would beat Bruce Lee. I said do you think Scott, the head owner of his gym (Scott Mincey), could beat Bruce Lee, he said yes, then I said well I would beat Scott so there. This was what the guy loved. He told Scott that I, who Scott knew of, wanted to fight him. So naturally Scott said well tell him to come in. He was retired so he said it would be done in his gym. Then the guy tells me at work in front of everybody who was aware by now of everything that Scott wanted me to come in and fight him. So there it was. I went with it partially for the challenge but also because this idiot did a good job of making me look like a punk if I explaied to Scott what was up and the fight did not happen. So we fought, hard for 8 straight minutes, unpaid, unregulated, and I eventually caught him with a heel hook.

After the fight I told Scott the whole story and the idiot got barred from his gym. He also got a little more than that but I wont go into that.:smile:

Anyways goodtimes.


P.S.
I never took Stan's threat here serious so don't go thinking I was going to go and beat up an old man.

 

[StraightPoolIU]

Speaking of annoying threads only posted to get attention...

 

[Black-Balled]

I love how the OP is fully challenging the whole internet to a duel right now lol

This thread did go to 11.

And it was asked here "what's wrong with following a dream?". Lots, often.

Follow your heart, or follow your smart: is this not one of the oldest arguments of man?

When our weary world was young, the struggle of the ancients first began.
The gods of love and reason sought to rule the fate of man.

 

[MDSPHOTO]

Wow, this forum is full of bitter old men. Too bad we have to wait at least another 10 years for some of you buzzards to die off.
.

I'm not saying you are right, but ya ain't wrong.

 

[philly]

I agree somewhat with the OP's sentiment about making it big in the pool life but I personally disagree with the spirit of the post. I played from the age of 14 to 20 and laid off for 40+ years. I am 64 now and am back in the game about 18 months and am bitten as hard as ever . I want to be the best that I can be at the game so I understand young Sam's passion. Passion for something is a good thing if it is lawful and doesn't hurt anyone. Pool is a tough way to make a living especially if you want the norm ie. family and such. Enjoy the pool journey. I am.

 

[Texas Carom Club]

Kermit arguing with someone online...

This slays me

The op's screen name may have insight to the bitterness of all of this

 

[336Robin]

What I read said......

I didn't read every word Sam said but some find it entertaining and the place needs some diversion and something to talk about that is positive.

The last words I read have been adjusted to say....to pro level skill.

That doesn't have to mean...being a pro...living in a sleazy hotel....staying up all night playing pool....never having a life....a substance abuse problem or two....or any of the wonderful things that might make up being a pool player.....or a pro pool player because the real Pros travel in cars, live in hotels and shack up with girlfriends and play pool on the road more so than enter tournaments. General ner do wells.

The definition of a pro is one that makes a living playing pool. There are a lot of unknowns that do that.

It doesn't have to be someone who enters Pro Level Events. There are a lot of people with extremely high level pool skills that professionally play anyone willing to put up the cash.

I take Sams threads to mean he is excited about learning the game of pool. I don't get excited or annoyed about it either. I just read something else.

Oh I can see where it might irritate someone but to each his own, just like you, we all have a right to your opinion.

Don't have a cow man..

 

[sonny_burnett]

Screw it. I'll go ahead and tell a story about my one and only other gym challenge match lol because its pretty funny. It didnt start on the internet but how it started is just as wacky.

I grew up training from a young age training in boxing, Judo, Jiu-jitsu, then mma. I used to train around John Bartons backyard in Norman Oklahoma. Back then we had a lot of tough guys there. A lot of unknowns at the time. King Mo, Carlo Prater, a lot more, plus Frank Trigg was there, Evan Tanner, Ross Purity, it was also a world class Judo facility, plus Shane Hammon used to train there for his powerlifting. I was used to hard sparring and tough fights everyday so fighting was nothing big. Btw, Walden was my pool hero.


Anyways at work there was this loud mouth guy who trained kickboxing at a local kickboxing facility. He used to talk all kinds of shit about fighting and I would just listen. Then one day somehow he heard that I fought and so he started asking some dumb questions. I mean dumb. Somehow it turned into a who would win between me and Bruce Lee. Lol I told him Bruce Lee was ahead of his time but simply not on par with todays fighters. He laid in with the oh my god type comments. This guy thinks he would beat Bruce Lee. I said do you think Scott, the head owner of his gym (Scott Mincey), could beat Bruce Lee, he said yes, then I said well I would beat Scott so there. This was what the guy loved. He told Scott that I, who Scott knew of, wanted to fight him. So naturally Scott said well tell him to come in. He was retired so he said it would be done in his gym. Then the guy tells me at work in front of everybody who was aware by now of everything that Scott wanted me to come in and fight him. So there it was. I went with it partially for the challenge but also because this idiot did a good job of making me look like a punk if I explaied to Scott what was up and the fight did not happen. So we fought, hard for 8 straight minutes, unpaid, unregulated, and I eventually caught him with a heel hook.

After the fight I told Scott the whole story and the idiot got barred from his gym. He also got a little more than that but I wont go into that.

Anyways goodtimes.


P.S.
I never took Stan's threat here serious so don't go thinking I was going to go and beat up an old man.

" everybody was kung fu fighting those cats were fast as lightning"



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[Black-Balled]

Ooh éeee, ooh ahh ahhh.
Ching Chang, walla walla bing bang

 

[JB Cases]

I have no problem with anyone that chooses pool for a living. It beats being a slave to someone else. However, I do have a lot of problems with those that choose a different way of life than the normal, and then ask for handouts all the time because their profession doesn't give them the money they need to live on.

Bartrum is actually a good example. He prefers the life of a pool player, but when things get tough on the road, he just goes and gets a job for a while until things pick up again.

A great example is someone like Scott Lee. Pool is his profession, and he makes a good living at it. If he wants some time off, he can just take it. He's his own man, not someone elses.

Biggest problem with that kind of life is when you get old. Far too many don't plan for that at all.

I so agree with this. I get requests all the time for sponsorship from people whom I can beat. People who haven't made their bones in this game going around asking for equipment and money is disgusting to me.

Other than his opinion on aiming systems I admire Chris Bartrum immensely because of the fact that he is willing to work when he doesn't have action. Even most olympic athletes have day jobs.

 

[JB Cases]

Ooh éeee, ooh ahh ahhh.
Ching Chang, walla walla bing bang

Except Mozart was trained by his father who was himself an accomplished composer. And some music historians now think that it's likely that Mozart did NOT write the symphonies credited to him as a child but that his father actually wrote them and passed Wolfgang off as a prodigy among prodigies because of it.

Mozart did not write his first world class symphony until he was 21 which would have literally meant he was in training for 16 years by an highly skilled composer prior to doing it.

This kid can blog all he wants to but until he is willing to put in up to 18 hours a day working on his break for example like Shane's longest day was he won't have any chance of becoming a pro in five or ten years.

I do like the idea of blogging about improvement and I wish I had the discipline to create a training program, establish a benchmark and work it while blogging about the progress.

Once in a while I check in on The Dan Plan and enjoy reading about his progress. I really hope he makes the pro tour by 10,000 hours.

 

[JB Cases]

Screw it. I'll go ahead and tell a story about my one and only other gym challenge match lol because its pretty funny. It didnt start on the internet but how it started is just as wacky.

I grew up training from a young age training in boxing, Judo, Jiu-jitsu, then mma. I used to train around John Bartons backyard in Norman Oklahoma. Back then we had a lot of tough guys there. A lot of unknowns at the time. King Mo, Carlo Prater, a lot more, plus Frank Trigg was there, Evan Tanner, Ross Purity, it was also a world class Judo facility, plus Shane Hammon used to train there for his powerlifting. I was used to hard sparring and tough fights everyday so fighting was nothing big. Btw, Walden was my pool hero.


Anyways at work there was this loud mouth guy who trained kickboxing at a local kickboxing facility. He used to talk all kinds of shit about fighting and I would just listen. Then one day somehow he heard that I fought and so he started asking some dumb questions. I mean dumb. Somehow it turned into a who would win between me and Bruce Lee. Lol I told him Bruce Lee was ahead of his time but simply not on par with todays fighters. He laid in with the oh my god type comments. This guy thinks he would beat Bruce Lee. I said do you think Scott, the head owner of his gym (Scott Mincey), could beat Bruce Lee, he said yes, then I said well I would beat Scott so there. This was what the guy loved. He told Scott that I, who Scott knew of, wanted to fight him. So naturally Scott said well tell him to come in. He was retired so he said it would be done in his gym. Then the guy tells me at work in front of everybody who was aware by now of everything that Scott wanted me to come in and fight him. So there it was. I went with it partially for the challenge but also because this idiot did a good job of making me look like a punk if I explaied to Scott what was up and the fight did not happen. So we fought, hard for 8 straight minutes, unpaid, unregulated, and I eventually caught him with a heel hook.

After the fight I told Scott the whole story and the idiot got barred from his gym. He also got a little more than that but I wont go into that.:smile:

Anyways goodtimes.

Well, any confrontation between you and Stan is now officially kept to shot making.

Good story and illustrates how easily things get out of hand.

 

[alstl]

Dear Sam Lambert,

I don't know you, but I used to kind of be like you when I was younger (maybe until I was @16 or so). And I've been drinking and I am a mean drunk that likes to hear himself talk.

You didn't ask for my advice, but your posts annoy me, so here goes:

Wanting to be a "pro" at something is fine. If you're 12. And if you have talent. You appear to be in your early twenties. Get a job.

I feel as though you, like Rhea and a few other people on here (probably myself at times too) write posts just so people will pay attention to them.

Like I said, I don't know you, but putting all of your energy into a spur of the moment obsession is a big red flag. More likely some area of your life deserves scrutiny. In the meantime, get a job.

Here are my general guidelines for becoming a pro pool player at your age:

1. Get a time machine and be as good as this kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcRYYTdkX2I here by the time you are 12.

2. If you aren't, then become an A player within the first few months of playing and you stand a slim chance. And then get another time machine to go back and have all the tournament and gambling experience that kid will have by the time he's your age.

3. If you can't do 1 or 2, then practice 16 to 18 hours a day, and if you aren't as good as a low level pro within one year, then you are not going to be. If you don't have the talent, then you, or anyone else on earth, no matter how much you practice, cannot become a pro. Sorry.

As regards #3, you might say, "How does he know this?" Well, first off, I have common sense. Second, I practiced 8, 10, 14 hours a day and I never got past a high B level. I don't have the talent. And from watching your videos, neither do you.

Can you get to shortstop level? Probably. But why would you want to? Even high level pro pool is a dead-end job except for the top ten players..

If you really love it, then go for it, but you should be willing to sacrifice absolutely everything--women, money, a career, your family, everything.

Do you have a killer instinct? I mean have total contempt for your opponent?
Do you absolutely pathologically hate to lose (I know a former NCAA tennis player that would flip over the monopoly board and threaten to kill you if you won-that's how bad you have to want to win)
Are you an amazing athlete at pretty much any sport you try?
Were you waaaayyy better than your peers as a child at any sport you tried?

If not, you won't be a pro. You are wasting your time.

All I'm saying is that your quest sounds pretty immature to me. My advice is practice enough to get real good, and get a job, go to school, get a girlfriend or boyfriend or a cat or whatever and leave me alone. I don't care about your pool quest. Only 16 year old girls want this kind of attention. But if you really love pool, then you won't care about anything I say here. In fact you'll use it as motivation.

I disagree with the bolded part. There are plenty of examples of world class players who aren't psycho about their opponent. In fact I would assert that hurts your game more than helps. No doubt they want to win but if they lose or make a mistake they get upset with themselves. Some use failure as motivation to work harder.