sounded like the tip whizzing past my ear

desi2960

desi2960

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i am playing with a buddy that uses one of my cues. he breaks and i hear what i believe is the tip zooming across the room, now i know i'm gonna get crap, because i installed the tip. But the tip is still glued to part of the ferrule. I have never seen a ferrule break like this. It broke about 5 mm down from the tip. chuck starkey
 

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desi2960 said:
i am playing with a buddy that uses one of my cues. he breaks and i hear what i believe is the tip zooming across the room, now i know i'm gonna get crap, because i installed the tip. But the tip is still glued to part of the ferrule. I have never seen a ferrule break like this. It broke about 5 mm down from the tip. chuck starkey
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I have seen one of the last generations of "Micarta" do that.
 
desi2960 said:
i am playing with a buddy that uses one of my cues. he breaks and i hear what i believe is the tip zooming across the room, now i know i'm gonna get crap, because i installed the tip. But the tip is still glued to part of the ferrule. I have never seen a ferrule break like this. It broke about 5 mm down from the tip. chuck starkey
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It broke just below the cap?

Kelly
 
I bet its a predator Ive seen many break like that,but they will make it right.
 
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Ya Joey, he won't be defelecting because he won't be shooting. Those ferrules are ABS plastic and I have never liked them. Iam sure Predator will replace it for free. If it were my ferrule I would certainly replace it.
 
desi2960 said:
i am playing with a buddy that uses one of my cues. he breaks and i hear what i believe is the tip zooming across the room, now i know i'm gonna get crap, because i installed the tip. But the tip is still glued to part of the ferrule. I have never seen a ferrule break like this. It broke about 5 mm down from the tip. chuck starkey
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About a 1/4in. below the ferrule, there appears to be 3, or 4 lines going aroung the shaft. Were there any on the ferrule? Maybe something made it weaker.

Just a thought,
Rodney
 
if youve ever repaired a ferrule on a predator (or changed as i do all the time)
the walls are shockingly thin. doesnt suprise me
 
dave sutton said:
if youve ever repaired a ferrule on a predator (or changed as i do all the time)
the walls are shockingly thin. doesnt suprise me
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How thin are they?
 
It would depend on the OUTSIDE DIAMETER of the shaft.
The tenon diameters are different for each shaft.

314-1 - .402"
Z-1 - .360"
314-2 - .414"
Z-2 - .385"

As you can see, if a 314-1 O.D. is .502" (12.75mm) and the tenon is .402", then 1/2 the difference yields .050" ferrule side-wall thickness.
You will also notice that the Gen2 shafts, utilizing a slightly larger tenon, have an equally slight reduction in ferrule side-wall thickness.
Plastic, suitable for ferrules, weighs more than wood.

I'm always concerned when someone requests a turn-down on a Predator shaft. This is one of the reasons that there is an imposed limit on how much these shafts can be reduced and still maintain warranty. That's why I asked the question I asked in post #11.
 
KJ Cues said:
It would depend on the OUTSIDE DIAMETER of the shaft.
The tenon diameters are different for each shaft.

314-1 - .402"
Z-1 - .360"
314-2 - .414"
Z-2 - .385"

As you can see, if a 314-1 O.D. is .502" (12.75mm) and the tenon is .402", then 1/2 the difference yields .050" ferrule side-wall thickness.
You will also notice that the Gen2 shafts, utilizing a slightly larger tenon, have an equally slight reduction in ferrule side-wall thickness.
Plastic, suitable for ferrules, weighs more than wood.

I'm always concerned when someone requests a turn-down on a Predator shaft. This is one of the reasons that there is an imposed limit on how much these shafts can be reduced and still maintain warranty. That's why I asked the question I asked in post #11.
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Hmmmm.... pretty thin! (but I guess that's obvious from the picture Chuck put up in post #1)

Thanks for going to all that trouble to explain. Useful information that I had not heard anything about. Thanks again. Jim
 
predator ferrules...

Anybody ever see a predator shaft wrinkle the ferrule from breaking? A pretty sporty player is pimpin one right now...
dbCustomCues said:
I bet its a predator Ive seen many break like that,but they will make it right.
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12.6 mm

the shaft was 5 years old and had been retipped many times.. my buddy is always cleaning and polishing the shaft and after all that time it had been reduced from 12.75 to 12.6mm. chuck
 
i had a 314 1st gen that was well under 12mm. i dont think you can get the 2's that thin.

i also saw a dimple in a freeule once. is that what you mean by wrinkle. i was given the ob of trying to sand it out. didnt work...
 
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