Spaghetti Weighting?

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You may be wondering if I'm in the right forum. Well, this may sound nuts, but here goes.

I wanted to feel what a really heavy cue would feel like. So I took a 16 oz. box of spaghetti (size #8, though I expect Angel Hair to be a better choice) and spread it out evenly on a table with the strands touching each other side by side. I then measured the length of the spread, which came to about 34 inches. Dividing by 16, I found the width of spaghetti that comes to 1 oz... just over 2 inches.

I then grabbed 3 rubber bands and banded the spaghetti evenly and securely around the cue above the wrap. This didn't move the balance point significantly, though I was able to do so by simply sliding the pasta, past'a the joint.

After reading that Mizerak played with a 24 oz. cue, I wanted to feel this weight and turned my 19 oz. Adam into a 24 oz. cue for 79 cents. Actually, I only used 5 oz. of pasta, so, lets see, that comes to 25 cents. Then again I may eat the pasta, so I guess it cost me nothing but embarassment on this forum.:o

Jeff
 
I'm not really even sure what to say, are you playing with it this way?
I guess if it works, roll with it
 
bigskyjake said:
I'm not really even sure what to say, are you playing with it this way?
I guess if it works, roll with it
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No no no, I wouldn't be caught dead in the pool hall with my cue wrapped in spaghetti. Well...maybe if it caught on. I'm just using the pasta for testing. It doesn't have a recipe for this on the box, but I'm a creative cook.

I should mention that I have a 44" by 88" table at home that I can at least hit some balls on to get a feel for things like this. I don't play on the table except when I have guests because it's in a room that's too small. I can't stand corner shots with a tiny stick.

By the way, the Adam actually felt great at 24 oz. It makes me think I'm using too light of a cue.

Jeff
 
Neil said:
Now that shows innovation and really thinking 'outside the box'.:rolleyes:
Actually, it just might be a good idea! If you get it a little wet, you can wrap it around your cue. Then, when it dries, it will stay there. This could be great for those very long matches. Your opponent will be getting hungry, and you can just snack down some calories on your cue! Also, after playing a long time, his cue will be feeling heavier, while yours will actually be getting lighter!:D
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LOL. Very true.

Jeff
 
No Smorgy

bluepepper said:
You may be wondering if I'm in the right forum. Well, this may sound nuts, but here goes.

I wanted to feel what a really heavy cue would feel like. So I took a 16 oz. box of spaghetti (size #8, though I expect Angel Hair to be a better choice) and spread it out evenly on a table with the strands touching each other side by side. I then measured the length of the spread, which came to about 34 inches. Dividing by 16, I found the width of spaghetti that comes to 1 oz... just over 2 inches.

I then grabbed 3 rubber bands and banded the spaghetti evenly and securely around the cue above the wrap. This didn't move the balance point significantly, though I was able to do so by simply sliding the pasta, past'a the joint.

After reading that Mizerak played with a 24 oz. cue, I wanted to feel this weight and turned my 19 oz. Adam into a 24 oz. cue for 79 cents. Actually, I only used 5 oz. of pasta, so, lets see, that comes to 25 cents. Then again I may eat the pasta, so I guess it cost me nothing but embarassment on this forum.:o

Jeff
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Don't play partners with Smorgy!! Don't do it, I've warned ya!! :eek: :D :eek:
 
jgpool said:
Don't play partners with Smorgy!! Don't do it, I've warned ya!! :eek: :D :eek:
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Well, I don't know how he plays, but I bet I can out eat him. I've been known to periodically pack a pound plus of pasta prior to partaking of a plethora of pastries. And then they'd bring out the main course. Puhhhhlease!

Jeff
 
bluepepper said:
You may be wondering if I'm in the right forum. Well, this may sound nuts, but here goes.

I wanted to feel what a really heavy cue would feel like. So I took a 16 oz. box of spaghetti (size #8, though I expect Angel Hair to be a better choice) and spread it out evenly on a table with the strands touching each other side by side. I then measured the length of the spread, which came to about 34 inches. Dividing by 16, I found the width of spaghetti that comes to 1 oz... just over 2 inches.

I then grabbed 3 rubber bands and banded the spaghetti evenly and securely around the cue above the wrap. This didn't move the balance point significantly, though I was able to do so by simply sliding the pasta, past'a the joint.

After reading that Mizerak played with a 24 oz. cue, I wanted to feel this weight and turned my 19 oz. Adam into a 24 oz. cue for 79 cents. Actually, I only used 5 oz. of pasta, so, lets see, that comes to 25 cents. Then again I may eat the pasta, so I guess it cost me nothing but embarassment on this forum.:o

Jeff
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Nice idea, Jeff. This could come in handy for those of us without postal scales. I've had ideas along this line too, but felt that a few slices of salami impaled on a shaft just wouldn't look right. Your way is better.

I do have some doubts as to whether your cue is actually playing like a 24 oz one though. You're probably experiencing the bad part - having to get it up to speed - but maybe not the good part: the added mass doing its share during impact. Its share is something like 20 to perhaps as much as a 100 lbs of average force, depending on cue speed and tip offset. This has to be delivered as friction, static friction preferably, which means that the clamping force has to be maybe twice as much, or more, depending on the pasta-pasta and the pasta-forearm coefficients of friction (I don't happen to have these numbers at my fingertips). Whatever kind of rubber bands you're using, they need to exert some considerable pressure.

Jim
 
bluepepper said:
You may be wondering if I'm in the right forum. Well, this may sound nuts, but here goes.

I wanted to feel what a really heavy cue would feel like. So I took a 16 oz. box of spaghetti (size #8, though I expect Angel Hair to be a better choice) and spread it out evenly on a table with the strands touching each other side by side. I then measured the length of the spread, which came to about 34 inches. Dividing by 16, I found the width of spaghetti that comes to 1 oz... just over 2 inches.

I then grabbed 3 rubber bands and banded the spaghetti evenly and securely around the cue above the wrap. This didn't move the balance point significantly, though I was able to do so by simply sliding the pasta, past'a the joint.

After reading that Mizerak played with a 24 oz. cue, I wanted to feel this weight and turned my 19 oz. Adam into a 24 oz. cue for 79 cents. Actually, I only used 5 oz. of pasta, so, lets see, that comes to 25 cents. Then again I may eat the pasta, so I guess it cost me nothing but embarassment on this forum.:o

Jeff
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Jeff (figures you'd be a Jeff),

I don't know what to say. For once I'm at a loss for words. Have a nice game, or dinner, or whichever comes first. :)
 
Rofl .... Lmao

I can just imagine what your sex life must be like? .... No, I don't want to do that .....:D
 
Jal said:
Nice idea, Jeff. This could come in handy for those of us without postal scales. I've had ideas along this line too, but felt that a few slices of salami impaled on a shaft just wouldn't look right. Your way is better.
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But yours would provide the Holy Grail that every wielder of a cue for centuries has been striving to attain....olfactory feedback!

I do have some doubts as to whether your cue is actually playing like a 24 oz one though. You're probably experiencing the bad part - having to get it up to speed - but maybe not the good part: the added mass doing its share during impact. Its share is something like 20 to perhaps as much as a 100 lbs of average force, depending on cue speed and tip offset. This has to be delivered as friction, static friction preferably, which means that the clamping force has to be maybe twice as much, or more, depending on the pasta-pasta and the pasta-forearm coefficients of friction (I don't happen to have these numbers at my fingertips). Whatever kind of rubber bands you're using, they need to exert some considerable pressure.
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Jim, can you do me a favor and write a pasta-pasta friction coefficient program tonight? I already have the pasta-forearm friction numbers and the scars to prove it.

Seriously, a warning to anyone thinking about trying the pasta weighting; dry pasta can scratch up your forearm. I think it may have originally been used as a weapon. If I remember correctly, pasta was invented in the orient, birthplace of the martial arts..... Karate, Judo, Kung Fu, Kung Pao, Chung King, etc.

I didn't hit anything hard with the 24 oz. spaghetti cue. The rubber bands held up for the most part though. What would be more secure, I think, is putting rubber bands underneath the pasta against the cue before strapping the pasta with more rubber bands. I'll try it.
I agree, I don't think the pasta cue will rival a Balabushka, but plays much better than a Boyardee.

Jeff
 
Snapshot9 said:
I can just imagine what your sex life must be like? .... No, I don't want to do that .....:D
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Oh no, you certainly don't want to do that. You'll never go near an italian restaurant again. Save yourself. Quickly, go to your happy place!
 
If you are looking for action, then walking into a pool room with spaghetti on your cue is a sure fire way to get some.
 
corvette1340 said:
If you are looking for action, then walking into a pool room with spaghetti on your cue is a sure fire way to get some.
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LOL
I don't think the spaghetti would do it. Maybe fusilli.
 
bluepepper said:
But yours would provide the Holy Grail that every wielder of a cue for centuries has been striving to attain....olfactory feedback!



Jim, can you do me a favor and write a pasta-pasta friction coefficient program tonight? I already have the pasta-forearm friction numbers and the scars to prove it.

Seriously, a warning to anyone thinking about trying the pasta weighting; dry pasta can scratch up your forearm. I think it may have originally been used as a weapon. If I remember correctly, pasta was invented in the orient, birthplace of the martial arts..... Karate, Judo, Kung Fu, Kung Pao, Chung King, etc.

I didn't hit anything hard with the 24 oz. spaghetti cue. The rubber bands held up for the most part though. What would be more secure, I think, is putting rubber bands underneath the pasta against the cue before strapping the pasta with more rubber bands. I'll try it.
I agree, I don't think the pasta cue will rival a Balabushka, but plays much better than a Boyardee.

Jeff
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A Plethora? :D :D


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