'Sponsorships' for AM players?

Don'nt worry about that big tax right-off.most pool halls need some more right ins than offs......that being said...I would buy the team logo shirts.
 
It is a 2 way street. Let's say I make a cue for you & give you a shirt to wear, with my logo on it. Now I have lost the cost of the materials to make the Q & I've lost the income, I would have gotten from selling the Q. What do I get out of it???????? I've done this several times & rarely has it ever made a sale for me. You get a Q, I get nothing. It just doesn't work. SORRY...JER
 
Sponsoring someone or a team is basically charity or giving the money away IMO. I used to work in a bowling alley and they had leagues 6 days/nites a week and they all had a company name on the back. Mine were Berwyn Hardware, and Devicos Gulf station. They did get the sponsor name in the local news paper everyweek with results which was cool, and if you won a trophy you always give it to the sponsor.

As for pool and sponsors?....tough racket unless you are Joe Worldbeater! You need to be a top flight player before anyone wants their name on you. I think the best answer so far is to make your own shirts and put something funny on them like....this space for rent, or sponsor wanted apply within....and have an arrow pointing to your head!:D

good luck, and think out of the box on this one........its not easy, but when you find one you'll say...that was easy!
 
IamCalvin06 said:
Steal one of SVB's tournament shirts and tell everyone you beat him playing 10ball and he didnt have the CASH, so he gave u the shirt as collateral:D


That bum ALWAYS wants to pay in shirts.

Good tips guys, thanks again!
 
D_Lewis said:
Ive been trying my best to find local businesses for small sponsorships with no success. Ive even sent out my sponsorship info to pool businesses that I support with my own money to try and work a deal out.

I dont ask them for cash, I dont ask them for free equipment, what I really want to do, is wear a logo of a company that I support in hopes of getting them more business by people seeing their logo. I know some people dont want the hassle of getting a logo shirt and would rather just make a monetary donation and Im fine with that. Every little bit helps with entry fee's, travel expenses, hotel rooms etc.

So, what Im trying to get to is, How do you go about getting a sponsorship for something like:
-discounted table time for practice
-cue work (tip installation, shaft sealing, weight changes, etc)
-a logo shirt to wear at tournaments, etc
-etc?

What should I be saying? What should I not be saying? Im going to Las Vegas this year in May for the APA National Singles tournament and Id like to be able to proudly wear a logo of a pool business that supports pool.

Help?!?
I have a few questions for you. 1st are you in Canada? 2nd how good are you? 3rd are you talking about sponsoring a team or just you yourself? 4th All you are looking for is a tee shirt and free table time right? Let me know.
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
You get a Q, I get nothing. It just doesn't work. SORRY...JER

Sponsorships are hard to come by unless you are a championship caliber player, and they aren't too great then. I have arranged to set a Guinness World Record for most consecutive games played and have yet to find a sponsor other than numerous rooms to host the event. I don't even want to keep anything. My intentions were for all products/cues/memorabilia to be sold in charity auction or returned to the vendor.

Good luck on sponsorship, but I doubt you find any.
 
D_Lewis...Here's my suggestion. Years ago I had a jr. player that won the opportunity to go to the BCA Jr. Nationals in Las Vegas (from Montana). He had no extra money for the trip, so he and I printed up a nice letter, made copies, and went around to all the local businesses (not just pool-related), telling them about the upcoming trip, and asking for a small donation ($25-$50). He got about 20 businesses to take part. In return, we had a shirt made with all of the "sponsors" logos printed on the back, and he wore the shirt while he was competing in Vegas. Before he left, we wrote a letter to the local newspaper, outlining his upcoming trip to the national tournament, mentioned the generosity of the sponsors, and that we would report back with the results. Again, after returning, he wrote another letter to the paper, mentioning the sponsors, and what had happened in the tournament. Both letters were printed in the paper. Everybody got 'good vibes' from the name mentions, and everyone loves to see their name in the paper! This might work for you too! Best of luck...:D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

D_Lewis said:
That bum ALWAYS wants to pay in shirts.

Good tips guys, thanks again!
 
What's your size D? PoolTees would be more than happy to offer you a complimentary black pocket polo with our very popular "Major League Hustling" design on the front breast.

All we ask in return is that you were it for a few days while you're there and possibly hand a PoolTees flyer to anyone that inquires about it. We could send some flyers along with the shirt. I'd suggest just wearing a t-shirt underneath so that you don't have to deal with a stinky shirt by day 3. :D

Deal? If so, just send me a PM with your size and mailing address and we'll send it out ASAP.

The picture is a little dark, but its a two button, front breast pocket polo shirt.
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Table Time

Since you are in a league, you could get the room owner to produce discount cards for table time for league members, example: 50% before 8pm. These cards could be sold or free to league members and the profits if there is a charge, could be added money for the league.
 
Scott Lee said:
D_Lewis...Here's my suggestion. Years ago I had a jr. player that won the opportunity to go to the BCA Jr. Nationals in Las Vegas (from Montana). He had no extra money for the trip, so he and I printed up a nice letter, made copies, and went around to all the local businesses (not just pool-related), telling them about the upcoming trip, and asking for a small donation ($25-$50). He got about 20 businesses to take part. In return, we had a shirt made with all of the "sponsors" logos printed on the back, and he wore the shirt while he was competing in Vegas. Before he left, we wrote a letter to the local newspaper, outlining his upcoming trip to the national tournament, mentioned the generosity of the sponsors, and that we would report back with the results. Again, after returning, he wrote another letter to the paper, mentioning the sponsors, and what had happened in the tournament. Both letters were printed in the paper. Everybody got 'good vibes' from the name mentions, and everyone loves to see their name in the paper! This might work for you too! Best of luck...:D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Thats a good point Scott.



For everyone else: I think I should be a little more clear when I explain things though, Im not asking for a cue, money, free food or anything really other then a shirt with their logo and maybe some practice time in exchange for wearing the shirt at this MASSIVE North American tournament. Soon enough, its going to be a world tournament with the JPA starting up in Japan.
 
I am an ok player who has talked to many great players on what they did. I know that many of the champions that are playing now that had someone in there own town who could were wealthy put them up. If you are well liked and people think highly of your game, you will have no problem at all. Then if you do well give them 65 or 70 percent of what you win.
 
D_Lewis said:
Bump for more tips!

I haven't read the whole thread, so I apologize if I am repeating information. This is, of course, my opinion (from experience)... so here goes.

For all amatuer players, I suggest to stop trying to look at "sponsorship" in the way a pro does. For a pro, the general sponsorship involves cash in exchange for advertising elements (logo on shirt or use of cue) and maybe personal appearances and other things like that, in hopes of that player helping the company to sell more of their product. It's "association", as in a "fan" will feel loyalty towards a product that supports their player/team.

OK, that definition out of the way... For the amateur player who needs funding for practice time and equipment, "sponsorship" means something different. In this case, the "sponsor" isn't looking for anything in return, because, let's face it... no one knows who you are yet;) This kind of sponsorship is a variation of a community outreach. Because of this, you should be looking for support from a much larger company (probably not pool related) because most, if not all, large companies have budgets specifically set aside for what they call "grassroots marketing". (Marketing from a very local, amateur level)

These funds are out there. Most of these companies have forms you can fill out online to request such money. Write a great story about why you are different and why you deserve the help. Touch their hearts.:) I suggest starting with companies that are headquartered in your area. Start wherever you can, and they can help you find the regional or local contact. This stuff happens... it's how Bob's Garage Company Softball team gets sponsored by Bud Light (very bad made up example, but you get my point!) Good luck! Hope this helps.
 
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longhair said:
See if there is something tangible that you can offer the poolroom in exchange for table time. I have cleaned tables for table time. You might work one shift cleaning dishes, or polish their woodwork, or host their website, or give free lessons once a week, or whatever. What skills do you bring to the deal?

I don't think anyone who sees your logo in Vegas is going to travel to your town to go to the poolroom on your shirt. A national chain, maybe, but not a local place; they just won't get anything from their sponsorship of you.

As far as you giving and giving while the poolroom takes and takes...Do you pay table time for league matches? If not, they are giving you that already, $30-$50 per week just for your team and one other. If that table wouldn't be rented at that time if you weren't there, the proper figure is less, but still not nothing.

I know a guy who got his employer, a steakhouse chain, I think, to sponsor him to go to big amature events. Maybe you could ask you employer?

Good luck!

I love pool but not that much. You have to draw a line somewhere. :D:D:D:D

BVal
 
lodini said:
I haven't read the whole thread, so I apologize if I am repeating information. This is, of course, my opinion (from experience)... so here goes.

For all amatuer players, I suggest to stop trying to look at "sponsorship" in the way a pro does. For a pro, the general sponsorship involves cash in exchange for advertising elements (logo on shirt or use of cue) and maybe personal appearances and other things like that, in hopes of that player helping the company to sell more of their product. It's "association", as in a "fan" will feel loyalty towards a product that supports their player/team.

OK, that definition out of the way... For the amateur player who needs funding for practice time and equipment, "sponsorship" means something different. In this case, the "sponsor" isn't looking for anything in return, because, let's face it... no one knows who you are yet;) This kind of sponsorship is a variation of a community outreach. Because of this, you should be looking for support from a much larger company (probably not pool related) because most, if not all, large companies have budgets specifically set aside for what they call "grassroots marketing". (Marketing from a very local, amateur level)

These funds are out there. Most of these companies have forms you can fill out online to request such money. Write a great story about why you are different and why you deserve the help. Touch their hearts.:) I suggest starting with companies that are headquartered in your area. Start wherever you can, and they can help you find the regional or local contact. This stuff happens... it's how Bob's Garage Company Softball team gets sponsored by Bud Light (very bad made up example, but you get my point!) Good luck! Hope this helps.


I too haven't read the entire thread but the above post is dead on. For example - who did you buy your last car from or what dealership does your family patronize. Also the local beer distributor may help. How about your local sandwich shop or pizza shop. They advertise and people get hungry and remember your logo or tee shirt or whatever. Do you have a local diner that you eat at frequently. How about your local supermarket. All of these types of businesses can and do help on the local level. If all of them gave you $20 bucks a month would pay of about 8 hours play time. They don't have to kick in big time b/c you are a local talent, but it will still help.

Have a goal to get 20 businesses to give you $5 bucks per week. Not such a hard job if you are polite, tell them what you can do for them and how it will help them along with reminding (in a nice way) them you are a regualr customer.
 
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Dawgie said:
I too haven't read the entire thread but the above post is dead on. For example - who did you buy your last car from or what dealership does your family patronize. Also the local beer distributor may help. How about your local sandwich shop or pizza shop. They advertise and people get hungry and remember your logo or tee shirt or whatever. Do you have a local diner that you eat at frequently. How about your local supermarket. All of these types of businesses can and do help on the local level. If all of them gave you $20 bucks a month would pay of about 8 hours play time. They don't have to kick in big time b/c you are a local talent, but it will still help.

Have a goal to get 20 businesses to give you $5 bucks per week. Not such a hard job if you are polite, tell them what you can do for them and how it will help them along with reminding (in a nice way) them you are a regualr customer.
Thanks, Dawgie! Good advice too. Bottom line guys, go out and talk to people! You can't get anything if you don't ask;)
 
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