Staking and Partners in "The Hustler"
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alstl said:
In a word, NO. It is entirely possible that one man could hold such power in the city he lives in. But not the whole country. Eddie could have continued as a pool player if he chose to. Just not in Chicago.
Luxury said:
George C. Scott did a brilliant acting job in this film. And it launched a scintillating career, with many memorable roles. Did any of you know that his younger brother used to post on here?
In the first scene Eddie wanted the bartender because he was greedy, and thought that Eddie was a sucker. This is the parable in the scene. The greedy get their just desserts.
I agree with you Jay that George C. Scott was brilliant in The Hustler. I think in fact that he stole quite a few scenes.
I'm sure his brother was pretty charismatic himself.
I'm sure you have been asked this many times on here so I won't make post a thread but was that actually you in Poolhall Junkies?
I'm sure his brother was pretty charismatic himself.
I'm sure you have been asked this many times on here so I won't make post a thread but was that actually you in Poolhall Junkies?
Johnnyt
Fatboy said:can i quit you stuck you next time we play banks?
You already did!
Luxury said:
No, that was Richard Portnoy, a character actor that looks a little like me. Mars did have me sign a release to use the name Toupee Jay.
Luxury said:
That and ten cents will get me a cup of coffee.
whitey2 said:
It's an old line but I still like it.
jay helfert said:
Yea, it's like the old line that is still used today, drop a dime on somebody. Funny thing, in Louisiana the phrase was and still is, drop a nickle on somebody. LA, skipped the dime and went from a nickle to a quarter but they were the last place in the states you could make a call for a nickle.
Re: eddie's first backer holding out on him:
I think each game is a new backing agreement as was mentioned earlier.
So if you agree to back a guy for 1,000 and he wins, the original thousand you put up never left your pocket, it's still yours to reinvest or throw away or whatever. The player 'owned' it during that first game, but no longer has a claim to it after that game ends. He can only play with his half of the money he won, he doesn't have a right to gamble with what's still yours unless you agree to it.
I think pretending the money doesn't exist just to avoid the awkwardness was a little squirrelly. Better to let eddie know exactly why the well's run dry so that he can think about it in the future. "I didn't get staked because I was drunk" is a better motivator than "I didn't get staked cuz he ran out of cash".
And yeah, burt's move was just muscling him. I guess you could argue that burt steered him to the 2nd set with fats, since eddie couldn't have gotten a stake without burt's help, but under the circumstances they were more than square, which was eddie's argument too.
I think the drama of the ending was a good thing, it adds some yin to the yang to make the movie that can appeal to everyone, not just pool players.
I think each game is a new backing agreement as was mentioned earlier.
So if you agree to back a guy for 1,000 and he wins, the original thousand you put up never left your pocket, it's still yours to reinvest or throw away or whatever. The player 'owned' it during that first game, but no longer has a claim to it after that game ends. He can only play with his half of the money he won, he doesn't have a right to gamble with what's still yours unless you agree to it.
I think pretending the money doesn't exist just to avoid the awkwardness was a little squirrelly. Better to let eddie know exactly why the well's run dry so that he can think about it in the future. "I didn't get staked because I was drunk" is a better motivator than "I didn't get staked cuz he ran out of cash".
And yeah, burt's move was just muscling him. I guess you could argue that burt steered him to the 2nd set with fats, since eddie couldn't have gotten a stake without burt's help, but under the circumstances they were more than square, which was eddie's argument too.
I think the drama of the ending was a good thing, it adds some yin to the yang to make the movie that can appeal to everyone, not just pool players.
The Saw said:
I grew up in Southwestern Ohio. There were real Tush Hogs around then. No talk, no warning, just BOOM! I know you understand me.