Stalemate game on right now on stream loop... TAR
Stalemate game on now
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Both players did this for 3 shots each, and then Ken called a stalemate.
That was the first stalemate I have ever seen. Pretty interesting rule. I bet Earl though he was getting the best of it by breaking again, lol.
Dont you need a King and Queen to have a stalemate...
I think the only way it would have worked out for one player is if there was a foul committed. Then the other player could have knocked the 2 or 4 ball (can't tell which it is) to block the 1 from the short rail side, and tried a 3 foul.
weird how that's never came up before in the hundreds of thousands of games played over the years.. the situation did not allow any kind of safety, whoever would have attempted one probably wouldn't have ended up liking it.
I suppose the only thing would to hit the one so thinly that you could hit with enough force to power past the 6 or whatever is there. That's asking a lot though.
I suppose the only thing would to hit the one so thinly that you could hit with enough force to power past the 6 or whatever is there. That's asking a lot though.
I had this come up in 8 ball, an object ball rolled up on the 8 hanging in the pocket, he could not make that last ball and I could not make the 8 so it was a stalemate.
There's a "Jersey Red" double-kiss shot there for your opponent, Lenny (for his last ball). But it's also a sell-out if one is not practiced at this shot. So it's probably best that it was a stalemate.
-Sean
I wouldn't have been too quick to call a stalemate. If the one ball freezes to a rail, the three foul rule can come into effect. Let 'em play is what I say!
I think we were both happy to take the stalemate but most players will never have this happen in a lifetime of playing pool.
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This was precisely what I was about to post. Once the one is frozen, the next attempt to bunt it would be a foul. At that point, a legal shot, which would have to send the cue ball or any other ball to a rail, would modify the problematic position and would lead to either a three foul or playing out the rack.
Stalemates are an important part of eight ball, but my thinking here is that it is never correct to call a stalemate in nine ball if the three foul rule is in use. I don't know whether it's in use in this match. If it is, this situation was, in my view, poorly handled.
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The one ball was declared frozen on at least one of the attempts. Actually on one attempt, the one ball was declared frozen to the long rail, and the cue ball declared frozen to the short rail. A legal hit was made on all 6 total attempts, including the ones when the one was frozen. The position had not improved. Both balls were within a hair of where they started 6 shots prior.
Earl wanted to call a stalemate by the 4th shot. Shane wanted to keep going. I don't recall exactly what he said, but it was something to the affect of "if I do this (forgot what this was), it will be changed"
Ken gave them the option after the 4th attempt to agree to a stalemate. Shane said no, Earl said yes. Then he said after the 6th attempt, if no improvement, he will be forced to declare a stalemate, as per the rules. So they each shot one more time, and then Ken said stalemate.
Earl wanted to call a stalemate by the 4th shot. Shane wanted to keep going. I don't recall exactly what he said, but it was something to the affect of "if I do this (forgot what this was), it will be changed"
Ken gave them the option after the 4th attempt to agree to a stalemate. Shane said no, Earl said yes. Then he said after the 6th attempt, if no improvement, he will be forced to declare a stalemate, as per the rules. So they each shot one more time, and then Ken said stalemate.