Standing Up

Kristi Carter

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Please forgive me for not responding sooner. Believe me if I had the time, I would have. So, in an effort to have this cooked and served before New Years, I will do my best to clarify any questions. Keep in mind that I am not a regular on this forum (and don’t intend on becoming one) so if I haven’t met your expectations with this post…too bad, it’s time to let go!

A few words to Kevin first –

After being told off for embellishing, do you really think it’s wise to speculate about my endorsements in an effort to build your case? You might be the only one who didn’t understand my meaning of “relationship.” Basically, your comments insinuate we’re better friends than we are...(your post: “Pm me with your real name & city, if you'd like, and I'll pass your thoughts on to her. I do all her cue work now.”) You’ve done minimal cue work for me, which I don’t deny, but I am disgusted by your exaggerations. What upsets me the most is your lack of discretion and disrespect toward your clientele. If you can’t see that, then you never will.

It would be easier for you to just admit that you’re attention-starved and lack self-control…(your post: “Sorry to hijack the thread to brag...you know I couldn't resist.”) I’m not aware of any other cue repairperson that blabs the way you do. A more accurate heading for you is “Good Work – Bad Character.” You’ve made hundreds, if not thousands exploiting the WPBA Players and should be ashamed of yourself for charging them, not to mention your aloofness toward it is offensive…(your post: “Anyone notice the Varney j/b sneaky on Allie's far right? And I don't pay her...in fact I have a copy of the check where she paid me…”) (Read closely “NYC cue dud” because your assessment needs some work.) For your information, the only cues pictured here are Allison’s Cuetec, the Scorpion, which she used for breaking, and the Action, which was used for jumping.

Lastly, your post: “In fact I should go so far as to stop all of my dealings with WPBA players...until you post an apology…” – is ridiculous and refusing to do cue work for WPBA Players based on our matter is immature. As for your threats, I would caution you against bringing other people into this – this is between you and me. You’ve already done enough damage.

Now just to clarify –

I'm not sponsored by Lambros Cues and have no reason to fear anything. I mentioned it because I love the way his cue plays and therefore would NEVER make that statement about Kevin’s cue. My response was prompted by Kevin’s inconsideration, and in my opinion, utter disrespect toward his clientele. It could have been anyone who chimed in who was agitated by his unprofessionalism. Unfortunately for him, it happened to be someone he talked about and I chose to hold him accountable. I also want to mention that I’m not questioning the quality of Kevin’s work. Those who have played with or own any of his cues know that they are good. Consumers all around the World buy products from companies with questionable business ethics, only because their opinion (value, quality, and/or convenience) of the product overrides the general way in which the business is conducted.

Most of you, myself included, can agree that my name or likeness will not make or break Kevin’s business. There is a bigger issue here regarding unprofessionalism and unethical practices. How long should Kevin be allowed to carryon, self-promoting, using the names and likeness of others with NO benefit to them? …(his post: “No free work here.”) Well Kevin, “No free endorsement either.” – Is this making any sense to you yet? He never asked permission or offered either party a product to sell for a fee and his tip is certainly not going up in value. Did I, and others, have prior knowledge of Kevin’s nature to blab? – Yes. Because of this, was Kevin asked to keep matters between him and his client private? – Yes. Kevin is the only on who has “bitten the hand that feeds him.”

As for Jeanette not responding the way I did…Presuming she was involved and offended too, my guess is that it would have been a certified letter mailed directly to Kevin by her attorney demanding compensation for his advertisement seeing as he never received permission to use her name or likeness. In my opinion, he is lucky it was JUST a post.

By the way, this matter cold have been handled more privately…but, -- still waiting for a call back. Either way, I have no regrets.

Sorry to those who lost their bets. :)
Kristi, aka “Somebody”

PS My especial thanks to X Breaker, BRKNRUN, Cornerman, buddha162 (you are Enlightened ;) ) and DougT – your support and clarity is wonderful! I apologize if I left anyone out who expressed a better understanding of the situation – I could not possibly find the time to sit and read the thread through to it’s entirety.

PSS Work Kevin has done for me in the past:
Kevin put a Sniper tip on my Lambros shaft and tapered a Southwest shaft to match the Lambros. The following day, my playing shaft was delivered to Kevin second-hand to replace the Sniper tip I damaged. Kevin returned the finished product to me the next day. And on another occasion, I gave Kevin two shafts and asked that he reduce the size of one tip and replace the tip on my playing cue. Kevin’s done a lot of work for Allison and is evidently confused about what was mine.
 
Right on, thank you for presenting this... it's obvious you didn't have to and BELIEVE me it's appreciated. I've chosen not to defend Varney's character, just his product (when the quality is actually questioned), because I couldn't come to a conclusion about his character. He is definitely a kind person and well-intentioned but often leaves himself in tough spots and is very sensitive. It's a bad combination, don't think anyone can argue that.

I'd just like to point out: His cues are better than good, IMHO :D
 
I'm still alive!

Kristi Carter said:
Sorry to those who lost their bets. :)


Kristi,

I was betting that you would max out your reputation points by New Years. My bet is still alive and looking pretty good. :D :D :D

Hu
 
I said it before and I will say it again.

I am a lifelong member of the Kristi Carter fan club.
Eloquent and to the point. Not to mention, for those that feel that everyone is out to bash Varney, no where in this post does she bash his work. Only his constant need for attention at ALL costs.
 
Koop said:
I said it before and I will say it again.

I am a lifelong member of the Kristi Carter fan club.
Eloquent and to the point. Not to mention, for those that feel that everyone is out to bash Varney, no where in this post does she bash his work. Only his constant need for attention at ALL costs.

tap, tap, tap...thank you Kristi, for the clarifications! You are, without question, "somebody" in the pool world, and anyone who doesn't know that, doesn't really know pool...at least historically speaking! Thanks for posting!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
Koop said:
Not to mention, for those that feel that everyone is out to bash Varney, no where in this post does she bash his work. Only his constant need for attention at ALL costs.

In fact, she actually compliments his work :eek:
I think most of the people defending his work don't really read the posts (like buddha, jimbo, roscoe, etc. have mentioned a thousand times already), because his work isn't being called into question. This definitely clarifies the problem people have had and continue to have with Varney. I'm still going to use his cues for many years to come ;)
 
Hierovision said:
In fact, she actually compliments his work :eek:
I think most of the people defending his work don't really read the posts (like buddha, jimbo, roscoe, etc. have mentioned a thousand times already), because his work isn't being called into question. This definitely clarifies the problem people have had and continue to have with Varney. I'm still going to use his cues for many years to come ;)

I agree and I believe it's because she has class. She doesn't feel the need to stoop to that but I don't blame her one bit for being pissed off. And I think she's right, Jeanette probably would have handled far differently.
 
one thing i would like to say here. please don't tar everybody with a 'dumb' brush saying that people who defend his case are ignorant and don't understand the issue.

i understand perfectly well that no-one has critisised his cues. my issue was that i felt, and still feel, that even taking the worst kevin has done in this situation, the public humiliation revenge tactic employed by kristi was still not justified, and was wrong. any moral argument she has has in the first place is surely cancelled out by this act. stooping to his level. if indeed, his level was that low, which i don't believe it particularly was.

One thing i will say though, fair play to Kristi for coming back on here to respond. she didn't have to, and even more so when she doesn't have any particular desire to be a member of the community like she said - so she came back to respond because she felt she was obliged to. And also, it's pretty easy to just start something on an internet forum and then decide to never post again.

I think you should both settle it over a beer anyways to be honest! Life's too short!
 
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Kristi Carter said:
PS My especial thanks to X Breaker, BRKNRUN, Cornerman, buddha162 (you are Enlightened ) and DougT – your support and clarity is wonderful!
You're welcome. So, now there are only two questions left:

How do you like your eggnog made?

and

Does this mean JimBo is unbanned?


Fred
 
I still feel that your initial way of handling your response (Kristi) could have been handled in a more mature manner other than blasting him in a public forum. Also, it kinda sounds like to me that you are saying that Varney shouldnt charge you or any of the WPBA players for working on your cues (tips, etc) because you are pro players. He has to charge you something, do you think he has no costs involved in supplies? I dont think he meant to ruffle your feathers, I think he was just advertising for himself, which I do not see any problem with. And your comment about no intentions of becoming a regular on AZ, leads me to think that you may be just a bit full of yourself.

Southpaw
 
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KRISTI: You are my favorite. sorry we missed that tee time with each other. I return to Charlotte this Fall, see ya then........Randy Goettlicher
 
Koop said:
Not to mention, for those that feel that everyone is out to bash Varney, no where in this post does she bash his work. Only his constant need for attention at ALL costs.

Nice observation, Koop.

Good work puts Varney level with thousands of other cue makers and repair people out there.

However, being a good cuemaker to a pro player takes people skills. Like earning trust, like communicating and figuring out what a player wants and needs. Like being reliable, respecting confidentiality, being available, being fair. Being a good counselor. It takes a listener, not a talker.

Professionalism drove the great cue makers to the epitome of their craft. They succeeded because players entrusted to them their most important possession.

Chris
 
Ah...just when we thought it was safe to go back in the water...

Suggestion to KV: Take a deep breath, wrap your fingers around a cue instead of a keyboard, and just let this thing end. Hopefully others will do the same.
 
Whatever the argument ...

One thing is perfectly clear:

'Kevalar' Varney's target sight is half dollar size, and 'Krispy' Carter's is a pinhead .... LOL ;)

Can't we all just get drunk, and forget about it? .... Wait a minute, I don't drink, and drunks irritate me ... forget that .... Smorgie is rubbing off on me.
 
I dont know any history to this but.........

I have recently been emailing Kevin and have just sent him some shafts to work his magic with.

I have found him an incredibly helpful guy who was so quick in responding and i have never met him but i feel real safe my cues going to him..........i just wish i was able to take them personally so i could meet him!
 
Cornerman said:
You're welcome. So, now there are only two questions left:

How do you like your eggnog made?

and

Does this mean JimBo is unbanned?


Fred


And not necessarily in that order :D
 
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