Staying down after shot...

Billy_Bob

Billy_Bob

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I've been taught to "stay down" after making each shot. Specifically until the object ball falls into the pocket or stops rolling.

But it seems to me I should stay down until the CUE BALL stops rolling. (Stay down on shot after object ball falls into pocket and wait until cue ball stops rolling until getting up from shot.)

And of course if the ball(s) come back your direction and you are in the way, you can stay down, but "rotate" your bridge hand up in the air to allow the ball(s) to continue on their path.

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If it was an instructor that was telling you this, they were probably exaggerating to emphasize how important it is. There is no legitimate reason to stay down until the ball stops rolling. However, if a person has an old habit of raising up to soon then you might tell them anything to make sure they stay down long enough.

What I'm about to say here is not what you would tell someone that is having a problem with it.
If your trying to ask what the minimum amount of time to stay down is? My answer would be until your stick finishes it's follow through.
 
After the cueball makes contact with the object ball is find to stand up. Cause as of then you have no more relationship with the cueball so you might as well get up and make sure you are out of the way. Staying down until the ball stops rolling won't affect the final position. Plus I like to get up after contact to see the angles that my cueball is come off the rails after contacting the rails so i know how much english i can get away with or how much more/less I need.

There is a guy I know if the county fun leagues and BCA who is an older player. He shoots with an open bridge. On his final stroke and shot he flings his cue forward and then up into the air and jumps up. Very strange looking. He is a decent shot but misses a lot of leaves due to lack of cueball control doing that fling shot.
 
Billy_Bob said:
I've been taught to "stay down" after making each shot. Specifically until the object ball falls into the pocket or stops rolling.
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Geez, if I stayed down until the cueball stopped rolling, you'd have to hoist my big 'ol stiff-backed a$$ up with a come-a-long :D :D :D !!!
I would tend to think staying down that long is overkill.

Maniac
 
Billy_Bob said:
I've been taught to "stay down" after making each shot. Specifically until the object ball falls into the pocket or stops rolling.

But it seems to me I should stay down until the CUE BALL stops rolling. (Stay down on shot after object ball falls into pocket and wait until cue ball stops rolling until getting up from shot.)


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You could be down for a while if your playing on a 9' table and the ball goes multiple rails. It's very important to not jump up during your stroke so at least don't raise up until you've followed through on your stroke!
 
OK, I'll be the one to post the obvious

OK, I'll be the one to post the obvious. Staying in position after the cue ball leaves the tip has zero effect on what happens on the table. It just doesn't matter. However, and yes that is a huge "however" we anticipate our next move and our body starts preparing for it long before we realize this. Our body's preparation for that next move is what destroys many a shot and is the reason that follow through is beneficial in so many sports.

Most of us also have very inconsistent body timing, meaning that adequate follow through most of the time won't be enough follow through once in awhile. Exaggerating follow through prevents getting burned on these occasions.

Hu
 
a drill that i use to do or still do, is just like a extra practice stroke after i hit the shot. While down in my stance, bridge hand still in place on the table, i take just one more stroke.
 
TheConArtist said:
a drill that i use to do or still do, is just like a extra practice stroke after i hit the shot. While down in my stance, bridge hand still in place on the table, i take just one more stroke.
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Sounds like a great method. Many players have the bad habit of letting their bridge fall apart as part of the stroke. This endiing should help to fix that.
 
TheConArtist said:
a drill that i use to do or still do, is just like a extra practice stroke after i hit the shot. While down in my stance, bridge hand still in place on the table, i take just one more stroke.
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I LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!

I have caught myself lifting my bridge even if my head stays down. (Exactly what Bob is talking about above).


Thank you very much ConArtist

JR
 
UWPoolGod1 said:
There is a guy I know if the county fun leagues and BCA who is an older player. He shoots with an open bridge. On his final stroke and shot he flings his cue forward and then up into the air and jumps up. Very strange looking. .
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UW,
You might just as well have been describing Allen Hopkins stroke (just to show you can get good with any kind of weird stroke if you put in the hours).

I remember going through a phase where I tried to copy his stroke (no backswing); I didn't succeed in reaching his level of skill.:) :)
 
Billy_Bob said:
I've been taught to "stay down" after making each shot. Specifically until the object ball falls into the pocket or stops rolling.

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My comment is that I hate it when someone says, "you jumped up," after I miss a shot. Of course I jumped up. I frickin' missed or more appropriately, it looked like I was going to miss when the ball was on its way. You don't stay down if you miss the ball. "Jumping up" is what happens because you miss. It's generally NOT what causes a miss.

Fred
 
A good rule of thumb is to finish your stroke and freeze in that position at least until the cue ball makes contact with the object ball. Maintaining your visual focus on the aiming point until contact will help a lot.

By the way, a quick message to Cornerman:

Hey Fred, I found Kentucky Jim! Check your PM's.
 
I like theconartist's method - I'll try it out tomorrow.

Phil Capelle suggests we freeze in the follow through position as though we were posing for a picture. That's the image I focus on when concentrating on this aspect of my game.
 
I freeze long enough to get feedback on my stroke. I can check three different things from that position that let me know if there was a flaw in the stroke. Once I check my finish position, then I can get up from the shot.
Steve
 
I was always taught to stay down till your cue is stroked through the ball the rest of the time it is really up to you if you want to stay there anymore. It would be alot of over kill in my opinion to stay in stroke much past that unless it helps you to stay in the zone.
 
it is a great drill, plus you look like a machine at the table. I picked it up after watching a few people including Allison miss a shot after they stood up then get back down at the table and check their stroke. Its not to long of a period to be down, and not to short, as i couldn't stand waiting three seconds after the ball falls in the pocket or until the cueball stops rolling LOL
 
Jimmy Reid's tape said to work on staying down

He said take 2 random guys playing and he would bet on the one who stayed down the longest or something like that
 
Jimmy Reid's tape said to work on staying down he thought it was important part of finishing the stroke

He said take 2 random guys playing and he would bet on the one who stayed down the longest or something like that
 
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