Staying Down on Power Shots?

Zphix

Zphix

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Hey everybody, I hope everybody is doing well. I've noticed (for a long time now) that I cannot stay still on long power shots. If you put the CB and OB like 4 inches away I can draw up and down the table with no problems.

However, on long power draws I cannot keep still. I usually pop up midstroke no matter what I try to do; I've tried the take a mental picture approach, I've tried preparing for the action and consciously stopping it, it just doesn't happen.

Can you guys recommend anything?

Thank you so much everybody,

-Richard
 
Move the object ball a few inches at a time and work on long draw shots in increments. I'm a banger though so take my advise for what it's worth.
 
In my experience I have found that I have to concentrate more on the hard power draw or follow shots to stay down and follow through. Most of this is due to the mental training on the break shot. Most people naturally come up on the break shot, and your mind body gets programmed to do the same on hard, long power shots.

In your mind you have differentiate the two different shot, or your body will naturally want to come up. give it a try sometime, you may be surprised with the results. Also practice the pause before you are ready to take the shot. If you extend the pause more for the shot and less for the break your mind will have an easier time staying down.
 
Take 4-5 feet of fishline. Make a loop, and tie a treble hook to one end of the loop. Place the loop over your head, and the treble hook in your groin area. I absolutely guarantee that this will work. You will only raise up ONCE! Glad I couild help! :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 
Scott Lee said:
Take 4-5 feet of fishline. Make a loop, and tie a treble hook to one end of the loop. Place the loop over your head, and the treble hook in your groin area. I absolutely guarantee that this will work. You will only raise up ONCE! Glad I couild help! :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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I'm glad we didn't use this in our lesson.

One way to fix your problem would be to take a three day lesson with Scott......or just a full day.:thumbup:
 
Scott Lee said:
Take 4-5 feet of fishline. Make a loop, and tie a treble hook to one end of the loop. Place the loop over your head, and the treble hook in your groin area. I absolutely guarantee that this will work. You will only raise up ONCE! Glad I couild help! :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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Coming from a master instructor, this seem like pretty masicistic advise...although I am sure it would work. LOL.
 
Allen Brown said:
Move the object ball a few inches at a time and work on long draw shots in increments. I'm a banger though so take my advise for what it's worth.
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Thats a excellent advice imo.

That is how we learn, one step at the time.

What is time? Events, action =dots imo.

Once you see/feel that you can do something, staying down in this "event" you have connected to it.

"Connect the dots"

Regards

Chrippa

Ps if the outcome isn´t to your wishes it´s a result of something that you do, adjust. It´s equally important in the learning curve.
 
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Staying down on power shots depends on if you drop your elbow. If you drop your elbow during the follow through it is natural to pop up a little bit. I would advise practicing opposite a mirror. Sometimes it is hard to tell when your body is moving slightly and can be hard to correct without a visual aid.
 
I find myself over drawing 75% of the time on power draws.....I tend to grind the tip right on the cloth some times, ( I need to work on this and a lot of other things with my ''game'' sound advice here.....thats for sure.:)
 
Elbow need to drop little bit at power shots(IMO) just before hit. Another one is if you are shooting draw and keep your chin really close to cue you get deflection to cue due mass of ball and it will hit you on chin.
Then you start dodge it naturally and you get little bit habit stand up just in case.
You can test it shooting power follow then back of cue deflects little bit downwards. Do you notice difference? :)
FIX : Keep your chin up enough in power shots.. also slight elbow drop makes power shots easier to do

ps. dunno if this your problem because never saw your stance.
 
Practice!

Start with power that you can control movement and slowly increase it as long as you've passed that level.

Think smooth and no jerking! Watch the finish result with only the eyes and staying down till the cb stops.
 
I love Scott's idea!

I think practice is best. Try it at several different distances and speeds you will get more comfortable with them. After each shot stay down for a few seconds and think about how the shot went. Did you jump up, put unintentional spin on, hit too hard etc.

What worked for me was shifting more of my focus on staying down and not moving, and also using a closed bridge/ hitting lower on whitey.
 
Power shots

Scott gave me the same advice and I can tell you it isn't funny. The fishing lure attached to the treble hooks are still there!
 
Taking a pause before completing the stroke, and really feeling the upcoming shot before shooting works for me.

I do drop my elbow naturally to get a stronger follow through but it doesn't throw me off line.

Problem solved (maybe?) I'll report back in a few weeks.

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Zphix said:
Hey everybody, I hope everybody is doing well. I've noticed (for a long time now) that I cannot stay still on long power shots. If you put the CB and OB like 4 inches away I can draw up and down the table with no problems.

However, on long power draws I cannot keep still. I usually pop up midstroke no matter what I try to do; I've tried the take a mental picture approach, I've tried preparing for the action and consciously stopping it, it just doesn't happen.

Can you guys recommend anything?

Thank you so much everybody,

-Richard
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Not being a wiseguy at all, merely trying to help you.

1. Stop jumping up on long power draws. You act as if you don't control your own body. The reason you jump up is probably anxiety about the shot. You feel anxious because you shoot it and jump up and probably hit it poorly. Stop jumping up, hit it well and you'll forget you ever jumped up.

2. If that doesn't work try this; Imagine a strong string tied from your head to your nuts and if you jump up...well, you know:).

ONB
 
Don't tighten or relax the grip during the shot.

Concentrate on the head being perfectly still instead of the entire body. If the head is still the rest follows suit.

Put more weight forward on the power draw shots. The reason people tend to jump on these shots is because they lean into the shot whilst mid stroke. If you cant put any more weight forward it will soon stop this.

Slow the final pull back right down. Pulling back 100mph doesn't mean you will stroke forward 100mph so keep it slow to make sure you pull back straight and level.

Lengthen the bridge a little. With a short bridge it feels like you have to give the shot a little more umph to draw back a long way. Leads to a jabby punchy type stroke and jumping up could be you trying to physically power the ball in instead of letting the cue do the work. Longer bridge means you can pull back further and it gives you the feeling you don't have to muscle the ball in.

Make sure you are hitting as low as you can. Its one thing lining up to strike as low as possible but its another thing to do it. You can physically feel when you hit right on the miscue limit for draw. It sounds different.

Buy the latest and greatest tip and chalk combo...just kidding :-)
 
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