Stevie Moore shaking
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He's not the only one, Nick Varner does it as well. Don't know exactly what causes it in them though.
Tremors possibly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremor
"Werbeniuk was noted for the copious amounts of alcohol he consumed before and during matches – up to 30 pints of lager per day.[2] He said that he generally drank around six pints of lager before a match and then one pint for each frame. He said he did this to counteract familial benign essential tremor.[this quote needs a citation] Later in his career he also took propranolol, a beta blocker to cope with the effects of his alcohol consumption on his heart.[3]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremor
"Werbeniuk was noted for the copious amounts of alcohol he consumed before and during matches – up to 30 pints of lager per day.[2] He said that he generally drank around six pints of lager before a match and then one pint for each frame. He said he did this to counteract familial benign essential tremor.[this quote needs a citation] Later in his career he also took propranolol, a beta blocker to cope with the effects of his alcohol consumption on his heart.[3]"
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Daz Appleton, myself and Varner were talking about this not too long ago. Nick has always done it and he does not know why. Stevie was also brought up about the shaking and from what we know again this is something that he just does. I think there are a number of players who do thid though too
Benign Essential Tremor (as defined by Wikipedia.org) is "a slowly progressive neurological disorder whose most recognizable feature is a tremor of the arms that is apparent during voluntary movements."
More in this article.
http://www.azbilliards.com/provision/provision7.php
More in this article.
http://www.azbilliards.com/provision/provision7.php
This forum is better than conspiracy theory sites. A guy shakes a little in his match and all of the sudden he is a possible alcoholic, has a chronic disease or a horrible injury.
How about a little touch of the nerves, combined with adrenalin while playing the number one player for the championship.
How about a little touch of the nerves, combined with adrenalin while playing the number one player for the championship.
Sorry Big Shooter. Just a fan of Stevie's and didn't notice it before. Not a nit, or conspiracy theorist, just a question. Didn't seen anyone comment about alcohol, and I'm sure that is not the issue.
Dick Lane has or had the same kind of issues only worse.
Azbilliards home page, good stuff out there:
"....
Q: You have a benign tremor in your backstroke. Did something cause that?
A: When I was seven years old, I stuck my hand in this fence where there was a Saint Bernard. We used to torment the dog, throw stuff at it, but it always stayed in the fence. One day, my buddy wasn't home, I had this bright idea to be nice to the dog. I stuck my hand in the fence. He came right up and smelled my hand and just commenced to chomp on it and I started screaming and the owner of the dog, he was in the house. He heard me and came running out. He had to grab a two by four and hit the dog in the head.
Moore was fortunate that there were no broken bones, only a few puncture wounds and very little bleeding. Most of the damage was internal. ..."
http://www.azbilliards.com/provision/provision7.php
"....
Q: You have a benign tremor in your backstroke. Did something cause that?
A: When I was seven years old, I stuck my hand in this fence where there was a Saint Bernard. We used to torment the dog, throw stuff at it, but it always stayed in the fence. One day, my buddy wasn't home, I had this bright idea to be nice to the dog. I stuck my hand in the fence. He came right up and smelled my hand and just commenced to chomp on it and I started screaming and the owner of the dog, he was in the house. He heard me and came running out. He had to grab a two by four and hit the dog in the head.
Moore was fortunate that there were no broken bones, only a few puncture wounds and very little bleeding. Most of the damage was internal. ..."
http://www.azbilliards.com/provision/provision7.php
I have it. I never got a formal diagnosis. It's not on every shot, it happens more on shots I'm uncomfortable with, and much more when I'm nervous. It's been seen in dick lane, mike davis, and a few others.
Basically the instant I begin my backswing, and proceed to stroke the ball, it goes away.
It's only during rest/warmup strokes.
At times it feels like my muscle is fighting to stay in the position I know it's right, even though the muscle wants to do something else. I'm fighting what feels natural in favor of a motion that will allow me to stroke straighter.
Basically the instant I begin my backswing, and proceed to stroke the ball, it goes away.
It's only during rest/warmup strokes.
At times it feels like my muscle is fighting to stay in the position I know it's right, even though the muscle wants to do something else. I'm fighting what feels natural in favor of a motion that will allow me to stroke straighter.
It could just be a way to "settle" the cue in his grip hand. Little motions like that can begin voluntarily, and then become involuntary over time.
I'm sure each of us can tell of at least one thing we do like that. We tried it a few times; it worked, so we kept doing it. And now we've been doing it so long that we don't even notice it.
Sounds like alcoholism to me
I'm sure each of us can tell of at least one thing we do like that. We tried it a few times; it worked, so we kept doing it. And now we've been doing it so long that we don't even notice it.
Sounds like alcoholism to me
That won't cause what those guys do, it's not just in one match. If that's the case, Varner is one nervous guy when playing. If Varner has that much nervous energy when playing and winning all those tournaments, his heart would have exploded by now. At times this movement can be caused by something odd in how you place your limbs. I have had some involuntary shaking of my leg when I place my toes on a chair just the right way, it does a fast up and down motion on it's own.
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That's part of the aiming system, sshhhhhhhhhh!
Contrary to bigshooter's experience, I've actually noticed this issue in Stevie's game for several years. It is real & it is an essential tremor. It's not because he is nervous, it is because he has a neurological issue. Essential tremors differ from debilitating neurological ailments like Parkinson's in the way they affect the body.
Essential tremor goes away when the hands are rested (relaxed) and comes on when your hands are in tension or during movement, such as stroking your cue or simply holding it in position.
Tremors resulting from Parkinson's are a resting tremor -- they come on when the hands are completely rested and go away with directed movements.
Therefore, Stevie's are essential tremors.
As noted above, alcohol can reduce essential tremors...bigshooter. No one implied he is an alcoholic.
Essential tremor goes away when the hands are rested (relaxed) and comes on when your hands are in tension or during movement, such as stroking your cue or simply holding it in position.
Tremors resulting from Parkinson's are a resting tremor -- they come on when the hands are completely rested and go away with directed movements.
Therefore, Stevie's are essential tremors.
As noted above, alcohol can reduce essential tremors...bigshooter. No one implied he is an alcoholic.