Wow never seen few AZBers agreeing on a topic, it is miracle, i think we are getting somewhere!
Straight In Shots
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Wow never seen few AZBers agreeing on a topic, it is miracle, i think we are getting somewhere!
Banks
Banned
If you force your stroke to be straight then you will steer? Say what? I know that when I begin steering or being off at all, I will pull my elbow in or other times will have a forced, deliberate stroke. I prefer to play loose, but if it's not working, I don't have the luxury of waiting. If I'm just playing for fun, I don't care so much.
Thanks John, my point is to Pidge and others, if i have bad stroke for 20 years learning new stroke, stance and all is not going to do it one will most likely default to bad habits i do not care what anyone say, unless you are on some drugs!. CJ's TOI, is a good quick fix and usually could be remembered at pressure situations, because you could forget to aim wrong under pressure!
You would be surprised. In less time that it takes to become proficient at using toi on all shots, one can re-learn to have a straight stroke at all times. Pressure or not. It's all in the training. If one is of the mindset that the "old way" will come back under pressure, then that is exactly what will happen because that is what you taught your subconscious to do.
Old Nine Baller
Banned
Nobody owns "English", it's all of ours. Maybe your hero could make a dvd that actually helped beginners like yourself learn the game. Maybe something like "Learn How To Stroke Straight" for starters. Of course, that title's not as catchy or attractive to the suckers is it? Maybe the beginners wouldn't then waste 35 years not learning how to play the game, as you have.
Quick fixes fall apart easily.
ONB
Has ever a truer word been spoken?
Thanks Neil, with all due respect to you and all that replied above. It is either my pool knowledge not up there yet, or you all need to get there! Time will tell. For now enjoy, hope to meet you all at the US Open one day, no i am not paying $1000 to get in! i think this was not good decision on Barry's part! i am sure other posts handling this topic.
Hope you make it over.... Roberta will likely be the one selling the tickets so just ask her to point you to the AZers =)
As far as the knowledge... Everyone has their own truths... My truths are different than some and the same as others on some topics and can swap on the next topic... The funny thing I see is those who have closed their mind years ago and never gotten much better but swear they are the ones right in an argument..... They know who they are and even if they don't everyone else does
Chris
Look. The lack of a straight stroke is the result of a flaw in the fundementals. But that is only half the problem. There is also the isse of being able to hit the CB precisely where you intend. Many times aiming has been adapted to overcompensate for a flaw in fundementals and missing CB percissness.
I had to relearn to aim once I fixed my flaws.
Many times correcting the flaws in the fundementals will straighten out the stroke. Our arms have the ability to make in a straight line but not when our set up is causing the cue to move off course.
A student of the game CAN learn to sight the shot correctly, get down on the shot in the proper stance and stroke smooth AND straight.
I grateful for the work I have done with some top instructors lately that has allowed me to see the light and the benefit of straight stroke.
It wasn't comfortable at first. I had to relearn to aim and relearn cue ball control to some degree but it has paid off huge. Please do yourself a favor and do not subscribe to some systems that deviate from a pure orthodox approach. It isn't that impossible. There are many people willing to help.
I had to relearn to aim once I fixed my flaws.
Many times correcting the flaws in the fundementals will straighten out the stroke. Our arms have the ability to make in a straight line but not when our set up is causing the cue to move off course.
A student of the game CAN learn to sight the shot correctly, get down on the shot in the proper stance and stroke smooth AND straight.
I grateful for the work I have done with some top instructors lately that has allowed me to see the light and the benefit of straight stroke.
It wasn't comfortable at first. I had to relearn to aim and relearn cue ball control to some degree but it has paid off huge. Please do yourself a favor and do not subscribe to some systems that deviate from a pure orthodox approach. It isn't that impossible. There are many people willing to help.
"In Pocket Billiards, the moment of contact is also the moment of truth"
TOI gives a player more immediate feedback.
I can set shots up and watch a few "TOI Shots" and tell right away what the source of their stroking issue is.....I simply can't do that in the same situation using "center ball".
There's no question that TOI is advanced in the respect that a player must be accurate with their TIP/CUE BALL targeting and contact.......the good news is it will also save a lot of time in "real eyesing" your stoke needs to be grooved...this isn't difficult if the player is willing to focus on it for a few weeks.
"In Pocket Billiards, the moment of contact is also the moment of truth" - CJ Wiley 'The Game is the Teacher'
TOI gives a player more immediate feedback.
I can set shots up and watch a few "TOI Shots" and tell right away what the source of their stroking issue is.....I simply can't do that in the same situation using "center ball".
There's no question that TOI is advanced in the respect that a player must be accurate with their TIP/CUE BALL targeting and contact.......the good news is it will also save a lot of time in "real eyesing" your stoke needs to be grooved...this isn't difficult if the player is willing to focus on it for a few weeks.
"In Pocket Billiards, the moment of contact is also the moment of truth" - CJ Wiley 'The Game is the Teacher'
Oh yeah, TOI is such kind of magic. Wow! Those cumbersome trials of explanations like this last one to something called "TOI" that runs against all physic laws slowly gets more and more disgusting to me. I would feel much more comfortable if these TOI issues can be kept in CJs special TOI thread. I'm sure not only me would highly appreciate this.
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Whine much?
"The moment of truth is the moment of impact in pocket billiards" - CJ Wiley
I am training several people primarily on strengthening and developing their strokes. To get quick, long lasting results you have to use something much heavier than a pool cue.
I use a couple different swords, ranging in weights and lengths to achieve this and works exceptionally well. Keeping the blade straight up and down while in the perfect position does wonders for "muscle memory" and the ability to accelerate at EXACTLY the right moment in the stroke - and gets the maximum results with the least amount of effort.
"The moment of truth is the moment of impact in pocket billiards" - CJ Wiley
I am training several people primarily on strengthening and developing their strokes. To get quick, long lasting results you have to use something much heavier than a pool cue.
I use a couple different swords, ranging in weights and lengths to achieve this and works exceptionally well. Keeping the blade straight up and down while in the perfect position does wonders for "muscle memory" and the ability to accelerate at EXACTLY the right moment in the stroke - and gets the maximum results with the least amount of effort.
"The moment of truth is the moment of impact in pocket billiards" - CJ Wiley