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pete lafond said:
Actually, this behind the rack break shot is a pretty good one. High left hand english and the ball will travel three short rails and almost alway have a selection in shots afterwards. Correct?

If you were coming off the second or first ball in the back row, correct for sure. If you set it up to run firm into the third ball of the back row of the pack, you'll learn that judging the path of the cue ball off the stack becomes quite a bit more difficult.
 
sjm said:
Hey, Rod. My opponent left me this position. I was at 93 needing seven and I got out of the rack using the approach described by Williebetmore. I made the break shot and ran the game out. Seven and out!


Thanks SJM, I'm always curious about that stuff. The other guy must have missed the 8 trying to set up position to move the 12-10 or 10-12, which ever as a guess.

Rod
 
In the end I do still know I would play it the way I had initially mentioned, I like the closeness of the behind the pack breakout shot and by making sure you get a fair bit of angle you can get a very good breakout shot. You need to be as precise on that slow roll shot pushing the ball out of the pack as any other shot the other path takes. If you hit the last shot in the other method too hard you end up with too little angle or no angle to make the shot well, on the other hand if you hit it just a little too soft you end up with the ball being racked. The optimal place IMO on the nudge shot is getting the ball only 1-2 inches at the most out of the rack and therefore giving yourself a chance to play the long shot in the corner without thinking much at all about the breakout as the path of the cueball is going to be straight into the very close pack no matter how you shoot the shot and you can totally therefore commit to the pot with speed.

I see less variables in the pushing the break ball behind the rack play, if you push that ball out behind the pack you are set and you then have the ability to play the cueball off a really easy setup shot in the 1 to get the proper angle.
 
I suck in 14.1 but my gut reaction would to bump now instead of later: 10, move the 12, leaving on the 8 if possible (if not then 1 -> 8), then the 1 and the 12.
 
my view on the out

I would take the easiest shot first (the 10), but give it enough oomph to send the 12 ball above the racking point, thereby making it the break ball. The cue should be in position at this point to take either the 1 or the 8 out (based on the leave), and then whatever's left over between them. What english is used has really got to be based on where the 12 ended up after shot #1.
 
SJM

Perhaps you can re-post this in the Straight Pool Forum. Ray Martin (ghostball) has been posting over there, and perhaps he would be able to give his thoughts on this shot.

Also, here is a link to The 99 Critical Shots in Pool - 30th Anniversary Edition

Available at this link

It's great to have Ray Martin here to share his expertise - he is definitely one of the greatest legends the game has ever seen.
 
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