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driven

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The last time I posted this I had 1 or 2 genuine responses and a couple other nits joking about my bad grammer.
Meanwhile another AZ "member" starts a thread about getting sexually excited over some kind of shot and gets about 80 responses. wtf???

Anyway I figured out how to make a video, here it is, I think


http://azbtv.magnify.net/item/2WWFRF3H6QHYX3D9

check it out and try it out if you want.
I had thought I made it 3 straight at one point but was interupted by a miscue
steven
 
Nice video.

I normally set up with the 2 object balls at the other end of the table, and the cue ball on the head string. I would apply english and try to avoid hitting the 2 object balls, and gradually increase the amount of english.

I guess I'm trying to work on how to compensate for deflection & swerve.
 
limbo said:
Nice video.

I normally set up with the 2 object balls at the other end of the table, and the cue ball on the head string. I would apply english and try to avoid hitting the 2 object balls, and gradually increase the amount of english.

I guess I'm trying to work on how to compensate for deflection & swerve.
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I would think centerball would be best for this shot.
steven
 
I have tried a similar shot setting up the balls by placing 2 balls between the two marker balls for spacing then removing them. I do this at both ends of the table. I start the cue-ball beside the foot-spot so I can use an open or closed bridge(I use a striped ball with the stripe running up and down as my cue-ball).

The goal is to get the cue-ball to run between both sets of balls cleanly, then work up the speed to see how many times you can get it up and down the table on one stroke with out hitting the marker balls. If it's too tough you can always spread the balls out then work them closer together. Nice Video.
 
Joe T said:
I like introducing an object ball on stroke testing shots.
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Me too, it better simulates actual play.

The problem with shooting the ball up and down the table there are just too many variables. If the ball isn't coming straight back, it might be due to poor alignement or aim. Or if it does come back, you could be misaligned but hitting it poor enough that the side will straighten it out on the way back.

Personally, I think long straight in shots on a snooker table are the best practice you can get. The added pay off is that when you get those long pots in a game, they are familiar and comfortable. The "shoot the ball up and down the table" shot rarely comes up.
 
Never tried it like that. I always held the finish stroke and saw it as a failure if the CB didn't come back center, but that is a much more accurate way of doing it. The way I was doing it I could do 10/10, but think it would be more like 5-7/10 the way you do it.

I'll give it a try tomorrow and see what I can do.
 
JoeT that was pretty much amazing. I will be trying that shot later for sure.
good music as well. If you ever have a chance to see her live...

dr9ball I think they teach that shot on a snooker table. Much harder than it looks

steven
 
Joe. very tough drill. I have used a variation of it by freezing the ob to the rail, then trying to stroke the cb to make it bounce off the ob and come straight back.

Steve
 
Driven, your grammer is fine. As a matter of fact I called her the other day, and other than a slight chest cold, she's been doing swimmingly.
My opinion is; don't worry so much about your stroke. If you practice, practice, practice, play, and then practice some more, your stroke will take care of itself.
 
Cameron Smith said:
Me too, it better simulates actual play.

The problem with shooting the ball up and down the table there are just too many variables. If the ball isn't coming straight back, it might be due to poor alignement or aim. Or if it does come back, you could be misaligned but hitting it poor enough that the side will straighten it out on the way back.

Personally, I think long straight in shots on a snooker table are the best practice you can get. The added pay off is that when you get those long pots in a game, they are familiar and comfortable. The "shoot the ball up and down the table" shot rarely comes up.
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I agree long pots on a snooker table is good practice (when you have access to one) but wouldn’t or couldn’t your misses be for the same reasons you stated about alignment and aim?
The shoot the ball up & down the table is a “rare” shot, very rare but if you’re doing it well in practice I’m thinking you’re sighting, aligning & stroking the ball pretty good and that’s our goal.
Snooker table was good advice but trying to say this shot isn’t, I can’t figure. The one beef I would have with it is the set up, kind of tough to make sure it’s straight. I would use a laser pointer or piece of string then mark it with the paper hole reinforcements.
 
pooltchr said:
Joe. very tough drill. I have used a variation of it by freezing the ob to the rail, then trying to stroke the cb to make it bounce off the ob and come straight back.

Steve
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Good way to practice or teach it Steve, actually a little more reasonable, I was just showing off a bit, can't help it sometimes.
 
driven said:
The last time I posted this I had 1 or 2 genuine responses and a couple other nits joking about my bad grammer.
Meanwhile another AZ "member" starts a thread about getting sexually excited over some kind of shot and gets about 80 responses. wtf???

Anyway I figured out how to make a video, here it is, I think


http://azbtv.magnify.net/item/2WWFRF3H6QHYX3D9

check it out and try it out if you want.
I had thought I made it 3 straight at one point but was interupted by a miscue
steven
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Were you too hard after the 3rd to hit the next one good?????
 
Joe T said:
I agree long pots on a snooker table is good practice (when you have access to one) but wouldn’t or couldn’t your misses be for the same reasons you stated about alignment and aim?
The shoot the ball up & down the table is a “rare” shot, very rare but if you’re doing it well in practice I’m thinking you’re sighting, aligning & stroking the ball pretty good and that’s our goal.
Snooker table was good advice but trying to say this shot isn’t, I can’t figure. The one beef I would have with it is the set up, kind of tough to make sure it’s straight. I would use a laser pointer or piece of string then mark it with the paper hole reinforcements.
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Most certainly the same variables comes into play. But imo it's easier to aim and aligne with an object ball than a spot on the rail, or a piece of chalk. Furthermore I think that long pots give you many of the same benefits and it also makes you more comfortable with them in a game scenario.

In my experience it's easier to mishit an up and down the table shot perfectly multiple times in row than it is to pot the a ball from the blue spot.

Finally I find that people tend to hit the ball differently in this drill than they would when shooting an object ball. I've seen lots of players hit this drill with a nice smooth stroke, but once they are in a game with a shot they aren't comfortable with it's all pokes and jabs.

Just some thoughts I've had over the years in regards to this drill. I guess I like my practice to simulate and actual game as much as possible, which imo better prepares me for competition.

That said, I do prefer your version using an object ball. I was refering to version without it.
 
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