Supplied air?....

cuejo

cuejo

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Well,
I found some time to get in the shop tonight,
Was turning some braz and some coco
Even with a mask the dust is starting to irritate me :(
Looks like I'm like most and developing allergies :((

Before I have to stop using pretty wood, or quitting altogether I think I should try supplied air.
Spotted a unit on eBay for around 600$
Called breathe cool II

Anyone using this thing?
Or refferals for a decent unit?
 
Hmm
Looks ok,
There's a half mask on the bay for about the same price, with the fans and 25' hose too
 
My problem is trying to get rid of all the dust from those woods out of the shop. So for me I just keep away from those woods all together.
My health, is more important than a cue with particular wood in it.
Neil
 
As Neil pointed out, it's not just at the time of you cutting....it also afterwards the dust settles around the shop and as soon as you touch or move something, that same dust you tried to avoid with the expensive mask...gets you. I don't use Coco and now I don't use BRW for the same reason. I have a pretty good dust collector and a air changer that goes to .5 micron I believe, and use a full face mask with filters on all woods except maple, but still have issues with the dust of some woods that seem to miss all that and then float around the shop and then settle. Then when you move something in the shop, that same dust billows up and kicks me down low..:eek:.
I will usually run the air changer for about 1 hour after cutting most woods, but...one never knows when you may get sensitive to whatever you are cutting that day. Sometimes even ebony bothers me really bad, can't stop sneezing.
Good luck, and I do recommend looking into full shop solutions if you don't have them already.
Dave
 
Do a search of desi (Chuck Starkey) threads and see the box he built to catch the dust when tapering. Then pipe the air out the wall instead of through a filter bag. Enclosing my tapering machines and exhausting the dust out the wall is one of the best moves I made health wise.
 
cueman said:
Do a search of desi (Chuck Starkey) threads and see the box he built to catch the dust when tapering. Then pipe the air out the wall instead of through a filter bag. Enclosing my tapering machines and exhausting the dust out the wall is one of the best moves I made health wise.
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Agreed, after building this and routing the exhaust outside I dont even smell anything when cutting and dont bother with the supplied air unless cutting on one of my other lathes.
 

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JoeyInCali said:
I use that for spraying Joe. Too much to have in the shop when using the lathe though. The tube is long .
http://www.rockler.com/trend-air-circulating-airshield-pro
That might be more practical.
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Do you like the breath cool? I just ordered one for spraying the other day. I remember Dickie once endorsing it. I honestly hate the idea of the hassle of using it, but I've been spraying with no real protection for too long.
 
cuejo said:
Well,
I found some time to get in the shop tonight,
Was turning some braz and some coco
Even with a mask the dust is starting to irritate me :(
Looks like I'm like most and developing allergies :((

Before I have to stop using pretty wood, or quitting altogether I think I should try supplied air.
Spotted a unit on eBay for around 600$
Called breathe cool II

Anyone using this thing?
Or refferals for a decent unit?
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Does this mean you can send me all of your braz and coco :)
 
cuejo said:
Well,
I found some time to get in the shop tonight,
Was turning some braz and some coco
Even with a mask the dust is starting to irritate me :(
Looks like I'm like most and developing allergies :((

Before I have to stop using pretty wood, or quitting altogether I think I should try supplied air.
Spotted a unit on eBay for around 600$
Called breathe cool II

Anyone using this thing?
Or refferals for a decent unit?
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Darcy,

Capturing the dust while you are working with wood is somewhat easy using the right engineered gizmo.

The only way to help the shop environmental problems is to put your dust collection systems out side of the shop. All vacs and dust collection systems are equipped with a exhaust filter or cloth micron bag. If these are physically in the shop,
the small dust partials that become airborne is what you are breathing on a chronic basis. There is the health hazard IMO.

I bought a old beat up 6 x 10 enclosed trailer for $ 500.00 and have it parked right out side my back shop wall. I have two 4" cyclones in there and cut two 4" holes in the trailer and shop wall. I have two 4" trunk lines that cover my machines and I just open the blast gate and the bulk saw dust is sent to the trailer. What is more important is that fine micron size airborne stuff is not in the shop floating around in the air and settling to the floor and being kicked up into the air all the time . I leave the trailer door open in the summer so the motors don't get hot in and enclosed environment and leave the door just cracked a little so fines are vented out of there from the to positive vent pressure of the discharges.

I also like to mop my floors with water and bleach once a week. It is not always what you can see that can hurt you but with fine contamination material it is what you can't see that will hurt you. JMO

Rick
 
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MVPCues said:
Do you like the breath cool? I just ordered one for spraying the other day. I remember Dickie once endorsing it. I honestly hate the idea of the hassle of using it, but I've been spraying with no real protection for too long.
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I bought it after Dick recommended iit and have not looked back.
 
I've been meaning to build a down draft table for my taper shaper,
Maybe I'll start with that and go from there....
Jimmy, I think I'll hang onto that coco and braz for now :)
 
One thing people who are recomending venting outside should consider is that we get down to -30 deg C (-22 deg F). So it is rather expensive to suck your heat outside for hours at a time.
 
Canadian cue said:
One thing people who are recomending venting outside should consider is that we get down to -30 deg C (-22 deg F). So it is rather expensive to suck your heat outside for hours at a time.
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You got that right Vince :)
I have decent dust collection and also a small fan exhausting to outside while I'm in the shop too
 
Canadian cue said:
One thing people who are recomending venting outside should consider is that we get down to -30 deg C (-22 deg F). So it is rather expensive to suck your heat outside for hours at a time.
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Less expensive than the doctor bills. Thats right you guys get almost free health care. It is still very hard to put a price on your health.
 
Got this table and box done this weekend . It still needs vent holes , but you get the idea. Thanks to whoever started this .
I'm putting another taperer there. Outside the shop. I have Jet d/c and another shopvac on a Vortex drum. This will help a lot . Turning braz and ebony on the main lathe just gives me the hives now . Even when I wear a good 3M mask.
The average temp here is around 80° and MC around 45%. Outside is not a huge problem. Just need a good roof and maybe a tarp over the box.
 

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Canadian cue said:
One thing people who are recomending venting outside should consider is that we get down to -30 deg C (-22 deg F). So it is rather expensive to suck your heat outside for hours at a time.
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Good point but my heating bill is not something that is breaking the bank. In fact it is rather small. My shop is also air conditioned so there is some effect on my electric bill as well.

The cost vs not breathing micro fine contaminates on a chronic basis is worth it to me.

Also the system is only running when I turn on a machine. It does not run all day.

Using remote control units to activates the individual systems without much fuss. There is never a time when both collection systems are running at the same time.

Rick
 
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