Surprise inside My 1940's Oak Titlist

Wedge

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Ever wonder how they Weighted Oak Titlist's in the 1940's...Lead in the Butt!!! Jerry (-R-) pulled this out of the Oak Titlist he is converting for me!
 

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I have a cue that's at least 100 years old that came out of a castle in France. It has a 1/2" hole bored in the butt into which molten lead was poured right in for weight, however I haven't seen this on a Titlist before.

Was there a hole up the center of the butt end into which this was poured? If so, how big was it, and how was that hole sealed since there was no butt cap? I have a few oakies in my inventory that I'll check tomorrow to see if they have the same.

Oak is not especially light, so I'm surprised to see this. Perhaps it was added by a former owner along the way rather than at the factory.
 
This was in the Titlist conversion that James White built for me a few years ago. :eek:

Scott
 

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I had a cue...

I had a cue refinished and the cuemaker found some stuff up in the forearm too...
 
love the lead....

I've seen a few older ones with molten lead. One Spain, in particular, had the lead added in the handle section....noticed it when the wrap was removed.

We had a (Tibbitts) cue once where the bumper was secured with a drywall screw threaded down into some ramin wood that was just sticking up out of the weight bolt hole.

It's interesting to see what things were done on older cues.
 
Jerry's answer to your questions

I have a cue that's at least 100 years old that came out of a castle in France. It has a 1/2" hole bored in the butt into which molten lead was poured right in for weight, however I haven't seen this on a Titlist before.

Was there a hole up the center of the butt end into which this was poured? If so, how big was it, and how was that hole sealed since there was no butt cap? I have a few oakies in my inventory that I'll check tomorrow to see if they have the same.

Oak is not especially light, so I'm surprised to see this. Perhaps it was added by a former owner along the way rather than at the factory.


Mr. Hoppe
This is not first time that I found lead in a titlist butt.

The hole was 1/2" round and as drilling the lead started appearing about two inches from the back of the butt.

The hole was capped with a maple dowel.

I have done a lot of titlist conversions and I find that Oak and Walnut have the least amount of natural weight.

Jerry-R-

Below are examples Jerry sent me for Mr Hoppe of weights he found in other Titlists.
 

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I had to laugh.

Ever wonder how they Weighted Oak Titlist's in the 1940's...Lead in the Butt!!! Jerry (-R-) pulled this out of the Oak Titlist he is converting for me!

Bet he wasn't real happy about it. Had to be a royal pain! Way to get the lead out, Jerry!
Enjoy.
Nick :)
 
Mr. Hoppe
This is not first time that I found lead in a titlist butt.

The hole was 1/2" round and as drilling the lead started appearing about two inches from the back of the butt.

The hole was capped with a maple dowel.

I have done a lot of titlist conversions and I find that Oak and Walnut have the least amount of natural weight.

Jerry-R-

Below are examples Jerry sent me for Mr Hoppe of weights he found in other Titlists.
Very interesting, thank you both for posting! :)
 
I had two rosewood titlist last year and the both were stamped 22 oz. One of them had lead in it and the other a steel rod. The lead was easy to drill out but the steel rod was a pain in the a$$.
 
I Bet

I had two rosewood titlist last year and the both were stamped 22 oz. One of them had lead in it and the other a steel rod. The lead was easy to drill out but the steel rod was a pain in the a$$.

I bet a lot of Band Saws were victimized when folks sawed a Titlist butt not realizing what was lurking inside!!
 
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