Again, this isn't just about making the wing ball, its about making the wing ball AND controlling the one ball to the top corner pocket (like his 10 ball break). Watch Orcollo's matches from '17 Derby on YouTube. He did it to perfection (and took 1st).
SVB cheating? Shaw/SVB Derby 9 Ball
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Again, this isn't just about making the wing ball, its about making the wing ball AND controlling the one ball to the top corner pocket (like his 10 ball break). Watch Orcollo's matches from '17 Derby on YouTube. He did it to perfection (and took 1st).
I don't know the exact count but there are at least 30 tables (IT might be close to 50) in 5 rooms on two floors. Getting qualified refs would be a challenge.
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Make up your mind....”been proven...never proven”
If I made a serious accusation like this about anybody, I would bet all my money on it...
...gotta feeling you wouldn’t bet...seeing as how you contradict yourself.
Do you even know what the age of consent is?
I’m calling bullshit
I've tried to read through as much of this thread as I could. There is no way you can tell me that a pro mistakenly racked the balls for himself with those gaps. I'd have a better time believing someone opened a door and a stiff breeze blew the rack apart while no one was looking.
C'mon, Man!
A "perfect" rack is hard to achieve with a triangle on played in equipment. So your argument is that despite his own s****y racking he is still good enough to win? There is no other reason for the pictured rack to be the way it is without Shane's knowledge. Drunks in the bar room give tighter racks than that.
It is simply not wanting to concede that there is something that they do not know.
You don't understand the situation. The term "sub-optimal" when applied to a rack is only accurate if you stipulate where the breaker breaks from, how hard he hits it, and how square. While this rack may have a disadvantage when breaking from the side rail softly, it has a huge advantage in that it allows breaking from closer to center, which improves cueball control and makes the one track towards the corner pocket where you break from. Those advantages disappear if you try to break the same way with a frozen rack. So regardless of the validity of your conclusion, our premises are incorrect.
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What?
Shane does not have to cheat any one at pool to win.
As far as him and his gal go, if one of you have proof he did some thing illegal then man up and go to the cops.
My mother married when she was 17 and two years later she had her first child and her and my Dad had 52 years together before she passed.
Physical relationship, how would any one know that unless they were in the room?
Shane does not have to cheat any one at pool to win.
As far as him and his gal go, if one of you have proof he did some thing illegal then man up and go to the cops.
My mother married when she was 17 and two years later she had her first child and her and my Dad had 52 years together before she passed.
Physical relationship, how would any one know that unless they were in the room?
That may be true. Also, the Patriots don't have to cheat to win a football game. Chad Knaus and JJ don't have to cheat to win NASCAR races. Sosa and Bonds likely didn't need the 'roids to hit a home run. etc. etc.
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You can't handle it. Walk away.
They all do it. When you pull the rack off and then finesse the 1 ball you are rigging the rack. You can not refreeze the one by gently rolling it back into place.
These at just two examples:
Filler was not subtle but was all business. Watch him take a sideways peek as he grabs the cue ball to ensure his gap is there.
https://youtu.be/lHTqw9xK5xY?t=1m19s
Shaw was much more subtle, just a little thumb flick, then a final read.
https://youtu.be/lHTqw9xK5xY?t=3m38s
I could find hundreds more examples. If you don't believe this, next time your at the pool hall rack the one with a slight gap then try to successfully refreeze it using only your finger. You cannot. The only way to refreeze the balls is against the triangle. The only reason to touch a frozen one ball with your fingers is to manipulate the gaps.
Shaw is only upset because Shane was so audacious and blatant about it. That gap Shane left was comically overt.
These at just two examples:
Filler was not subtle but was all business. Watch him take a sideways peek as he grabs the cue ball to ensure his gap is there.
https://youtu.be/lHTqw9xK5xY?t=1m19s
Shaw was much more subtle, just a little thumb flick, then a final read.
https://youtu.be/lHTqw9xK5xY?t=3m38s
I could find hundreds more examples. If you don't believe this, next time your at the pool hall rack the one with a slight gap then try to successfully refreeze it using only your finger. You cannot. The only way to refreeze the balls is against the triangle. The only reason to touch a frozen one ball with your fingers is to manipulate the gaps.
Shaw is only upset because Shane was so audacious and blatant about it. That gap Shane left was comically overt.
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I was at Derby last year and saw SVB breaking hard(straight to 1 ball. no cut.) from box. Nobody makes corner ball that way if rack is tight. I said there is something weird on that racking. Everybody told me "Shane does not cheat. others do, but not SVB"
Whatever. I have been practicing breaking quite a lot and I am pretty good at it. I know what can happen and what cannot.
Whatever. I have been practicing breaking quite a lot and I am pretty good at it. I know what can happen and what cannot.
I just got your post, Justin. I still don't understand how everyone doesn't already know this. They all act surprised and start to throw out "evidence" that is just as tainted as this example, in some misguided effort to cling to their "heroes". Guess what, they don't have to be perfect to be inspirational.
Lance won the Tour 6 times, he did.
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They took one of his wins away? (He will tell you he won it seven times.)