SVB runs a 305 in straight pool

iusedtoberich said:
Agree:) He slipped my mind. I forgot Varner also, and I'm certain many others.
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There you go. Nick was a great Straight Pool player, as was Ray Martin. Lassiter could play a little too :wink:, only the best player of his generation. The guy who ran the most balls back then was Lou Butera, who could hit you with a 200 at any moment. NO ONE wanted to play him a long challenge match in those days.
 
Gotta run guys, I have a poker tournament to win today. Final table of the WPT Deepstacks at the Bicycle Casino, 95K on top! I'm seventh in chips, but still with a healthy stack. They're streaming it starting at 2:30 PM PST on wptdeepstacks.com. Sweat it, it's free!
 
jay helfert said:
Gotta run guys, I have a poker tournament to win today. Final table of the WPT Deepstacks at the Bicycle Casino, 95K on top! I'm seventh in chips, but still with a healthy stack. They're streaming it starting at 2:30 PM PST on wptdeepstacks.com. Sweat it, it's free!
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Good luck!
 
(((Satori))) said:
Im curious, do you think a high level player who is needing to put up his best numbers would choose to play on an 8' with nap cloth and 5" pockets or a 9' blue label diamond pro am with 4.5" pockets?
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Great question. If a top pro would want to put up the highest runs possible according to your choices I would say the 8ft. table with slow nap felt only because A Diamond table plays so tough. Diamond tables have been around for 25+ years and only 1 run ever over 300. The best way to put up the highest runs would be to have a gold crown with simonis and standard pockets or a table like at q-masters in Va Beach with 5 inch pockets and filed down slate at the pockets like a drop shelf where Schmidt ran his 400 ball run at.
Give all the top pros a couple weeks on a table like that and no doubt a 600-700 ball run will happen. An 8ft. table there just isn't enough room for any type of consistant pattern play and there will be more clusters.
 
NYC cue dude said:
Oh, and the Ursetti story is wrong. He ran like 350, then went for dinner and then came back and continued his run to around 600. He didn't run 600 and stop. It was NOT an unfinished, nor uninterrupted run.
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Well that's not exactly right either. Now that I think about it it was like a 589. He was warming up for a match with Fats and he and Charlie Ursitti were pausing during the run now and then for coffee. Ursitti was racking and keeping count.

Supposedly Mosconi broke the last rack wide open and then walked away, reputedly saying something like, "See, running 600 balls is no big deal."

Lou Figueroa
 
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mjantti said:
No one has yet to mention the difference between Mosconi being totally in the zone running 526 and beating a severely less intimidating record at the time and the person nowadays who is about to beat the 50+ year old record of Mosconi that every pool player is talking about. Engert was mentioned being shaking during the last couple of dozen ball and I'd say not only because of physical fatigue. I can't imagine what would race through in every single pool players mind when a run exceeds 500 and starts closing on the impossible and intimidating 526. How would you feel writing your name into straight pool history books for eternity with a single run? How about that for a pressure? :)
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Great post ....great point
 
Ron Swanson said:
I'll bite. Shane is a FANTASTIC player when there is no pressure.
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3 US Open finals/titles in a row??? I disagree with this but do agree that he is fallible. Shane has trouble playing in tournaments internationally. He didn't have trouble playing a challenge match in Greece and roasting Nikos mind you. Shane simply doesn't travel all that well and feels uncomfortable when he isn't on US soil. That doesn't mean he isn't a stone cold champion.
 
jay helfert said:
The guy who ran the most balls back then was Lou Butera, who could hit you with a 200 at any moment.
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Probably only took him a moment to run those 200 as well. Watching that guy play pool is bizaar, there are fast players, then there is Lou.
 
jay helfert said:
You forgot the best player of them all, the one who was trained by Mosconi, THE MIGHTY MIZ!
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Nobody had a more powerful stroke. I was watching a 14.1 video of Ortmann vs Mizerak. Neither guy was playing his best because the cloth was slow and the rack wasn't opening but one shot which stood out was Mizerak getting straight on his key ball uptable in the corner pocket and drawing the cue ball 15 feet off the foot rail back up above the rack for perfect shape on the break ball.

Ortmann also has a big stroke, when the balls aren't opening for those guys you know conditions are tough.
 
alstl said:
Nobody had a more powerful stroke. I was watching a 14.1 video of Ortmann vs Mizerak. Neither guy was playing his best because the cloth was slow and the rack wasn't opening but one shot which stood out was Mizerak getting straight on his key ball uptable in the corner pocket and drawing the cue ball 15 feet off the foot rail back up above the rack for perfect shape on the break ball.

Ortmann also has a big stroke, when the balls aren't opening for those guys you know conditions are tough.
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I remember that draw shot by the Miz, Al.
Steve may have had the biggest range....he could hit delicately...and he could send it
airmail....like an opera singer who has a couple more octaves.

BTW...congratulations to SVB....a real pro
 
Shane has had two matches on the World 14.1 stream so far:

Yesterday -- 73 and out

Today -- 100 and out
 
flyvirginiaguy said:
And if someone today run 600 on Simonis, that is a great and awesome feat, but not as tough as 526 on slow cloth.
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This conclusion does not follow from the premise. A valid argument might be

"If someone today ran 600 on Simonis, that is a great and awesome feat, but not as tough as anyone today running 526 on that same table with slow cloth."
 
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Shane's balls against total is 81, leading the pack, with Archer nipping at his heals. Great showing


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No disrespect to mosconi but I wish someone would break his record on a real table instead of the 8 ft big pocket table he set it on so we can move on from it lol
 
trob said:
No disrespect to mosconi but I wish someone would break his record on a real table instead of the 8 ft big pocket table he set it on so we can move on from it lol
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Some here think an 8' table with nap cloth is easier for straight pool. So, try it. Prove us wrong. lol... We can even start with a smaller run than 526. How about the 305 this thread is about. Would make for a great stream seeing a modern day professional try it :smile:
 
Shane ran 136 and out against Mika. Says he is figuring out the game.


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mjantti said:
No one has yet to mention the difference between Mosconi being totally in the zone running 526 and beating a severely less intimidating record at the time and the person nowadays who is about to beat the 50+ year old record of Mosconi that every pool player is talking about. Engert was mentioned being shaking during the last couple of dozen ball and I'd say not only because of physical fatigue. I can't imagine what would race through in every single pool players mind when a run exceeds 500 and starts closing on the impossible and intimidating 526. How would you feel writing your name into straight pool history books for eternity with a single run? How about that for a pressure? :)
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That's true except for one thing - Mosconi's high run wasn't 526. Mosconi's high run was 609.

https://youtu.be/4Ur8yIFhBy8?t=958

Shane was exactly half way to the record.
 
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