SVB to Kick Off High Run Attempts

maha said:
if you play a round of golf every day you get 4 tries at a hole in one. so making a hole in one is a great feat for most golfers in their life. maybe the best players may have had ten or twenty or so in their whole life that may be the record i dont know.

but if you stay at one particular par 3 hole and hit hundreds or thousands of balls you will get many holes in one and it isnt the same as the guy that made his once in a lifetime. and if a pro did it he would certainly break the record for the most holes in one in a lifetime.
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Just like a year and a half ago, my dad was playing in a tourney and won a dodge charger RT by making a hole in one on hole 17 specifically. He ended up getting a dodge ram pickup instead for it wasn't truly a dodge charger that he won, but rather, 50K towards a vehicle at that dealership. The dealer didn't care one way or the other so my dad got what he wanted.

Jaden
 
Shane was at 5 racks completed and scratched in the side on the break, then started over and after completing one rack scratched in the other side on the breakout. Now he's back up to 3 racks completed.

Jaden
 
xradarx said:
Only three or four known uTube videos exist to demonstrate the old school for people to review.
So, if you can’t play a lick, how do you know about some of the old school 14.1 players’ prowess?
No one discusses that type of play anymore.
I was taught that 14.1 game in 1969, just over fifty years ago in a bygone era of artistic pool players.
There is much more to the old school type of 14.1 than you’ll ever hear discussed on any pool forum today.
radar
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Curious to know what those four videos are.

Off the top of my head I know of the:
Joe Balsis vs Irvin Crane US Open Match
Mosconi vs Caras 1963 Athletic Shore Club Match
Jose Garcia vs Jack Colavita US Open Match
Cisero Murphy vs Luther Lassiter 1966 World Championship
Jack Breit vs Luther Lassiter US Open Match

Any others I'm missing?
 
Got back to 5 racks again but left himself long on the shot after the breakout and missed.

Jaden
 
This is an exciting experiment and I'm really looking forward to see how far some of the top players can go.

What amazes me is, that the modern pros, who play 9ball and 10ball most of the time, can adapt to 14.1 so easily.
Because it is not just patterns and ball pocketing, it is all about managing your focus.
They are used to focus very hard on nine shots and then let loose till the next rack begins. Now they focus for two or three shots, run ten balls with as less mental effort as possible and then focus again to get in line for the next break shot, which is at least for me as an amateur is so, so hard to do.
 
Shane got back to 5 games again and got past the first ball after the breakout... Let's see if he gets the 6th rack down. got the 6th rack down so if he gets this breakshot he'll be past 90 balls.

Jaden
 
Oze147 said:
This is an exciting experiment and I'm really looking forward to see how far some of the top players can go.

What amazes me is, that the modern pros, who play 9ball and 10ball most of the time, can adapt to 14.1 so easily.
Because it is not just patterns and ball pocketing, it is all about managing your focus.
They are used to focus very hard on nine shots and then let loose till the next rack begins. Now they focus for two or three shots, run ten balls with as less mental effort as possible and then focus again to get in line for the next break shot, which is at least for me as an amateur is so, so hard to do.
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One thing that may be a factor in that is these players are used to playing only 1 ball on the table that is theoretically available to all 6 pockets. With straight pool, all the balls are in play and theoretically available to all 6 pockets. I can't remember which top Pro I overheard say this at Derby one time, but they mentioned that playing straight pool was easy for that reason, all the balls are in play.
 
Did not get out from low on the rack, dogged a shot in the side. Run over at 6 racks. Looks to be taking a break.
 
stream is so choppy it’s unwatchable

on iphone i get about one still frame every five or ten seconds
 
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markjames said:
stream is so choppy it’s unwatchable

on iphone i get about one still frame every five or ten seconds
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I would lay money on the issue being your data connection. While I am no apple drone, stream is also fine via android on the same wifi connection
 
briankenobi said:
One thing that may be a factor in that is these players are used to playing only 1 ball on the table that is theoretically available to all 6 pockets. With straight pool, all the balls are in play and theoretically available to all 6 pockets. I can't remember which top Pro I overheard say this at Derby one time, but they mentioned that playing straight pool was easy for that reason, all the balls are in play.
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The key to playing 14.1 is to count backwards from your intended break ball at least 5 balls back, then which balls backwards from there that set you up on the final 5 balls. As balls get pocketed, options are reduced, which is why the final 5 balls before the break ball are so important by order of play and position.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Too bad this didn't take place when Judd was over here.
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Huh...interesting idea...Steve Davis showed some 14.1 talent in his exhibition with Steve Mizerak and if I remember correctly Stuart Pettman once had a good run at the DCC.
But I think it would be a big surprise if a snookerplayer could put a 100+ run together without dedicating at least a few practice days.
 
I got an impression that players of 14.1 era were far more versatile on their break shots, utilizing the whole variety. And of course those who inherited that style and brought that to 80-90-ies. I recall Pat Fleming shows enough in his short educational, and Grady Mathews also.
While modern "9-ball" players who are involved in 14.1 rely on the side break shot most of the time.

I can't afford watching SVB attempts as much as I wish for the time being, so I wonder how often does he go for a break behind the stack? Let alone a 3-railer?

(on a side note, I tried to take a quick peek and as long as the picture quality is very nice, the stream is waaaay too choppy, sometimes almost unwatchable. No bad feelings about that, just a matter of fact)
 
briankenobi said:
One thing that may be a factor in that is these players are used to playing only 1 ball on the table that is theoretically available to all 6 pockets. With straight pool, all the balls are in play and theoretically available to all 6 pockets. I can't remember which top Pro I overheard say this at Derby one time, but they mentioned that playing straight pool was easy for that reason, all the balls are in play.
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They aren't though - that's the problem with 14.1. Some balls are not in play because they don't go anywhere until you make it possible to make them go somehwere by clearing blockers or opening clusters. On this point, 14.1 can be excruciating. It's way too easy to bump balls and have no shot, bump balls and just make more clusters, etc.

Some aren't in play because you need them to close out the rack (i.e., they are the final pattern). Now, for sure, the opportunity to play for multiple balls is greater in 14.1 than in 9 ball, but as the rack goes on in straight pool, it get's more difficult as you close out your pattern and your margin of error in position gets increasingly tighter; whereas in 9 ball, the rack gets easier with much larger margins for error in position as you close out the rack.

To me, this is what makes 14.1 immensely enjoyable and bananas hard.

All IMO and respectfully.
 
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