SVB vs Chang on ESPN now! Dec 9th 2pm est

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Scott Lee

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Apocalypse2012...If you didn't watch, you missed some really great shooting by all four players. Both semi final matches came down to a sudden death game. In the final Appleton just played perfect pool and basically ran out both sets. Even though we've known the outcome since Oct., this was the first chance to see the great play by these four guys (Chang, SVB, Orcullo & Appleton) in this year's event. I watched, and dvr'd the matches.

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Apocalypse2012 said:
I guess I'll watch football then....
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pwd72s

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Just finished watching...some really top level play. I enjoyed, even knowing the eventual outcome.
 
Johnnyt

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I can't see wasting my time watching poor quality productions of pool on ESPN that are not live. I also try not to ever watch ESPN just because the way they treated/treat pool as a filler. Johnnyt
 
sjm

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JL Chang is a superstar who made it clear he belonged in the company of Shane, Orcullo, and Appleton. I was there at Mohegan Sun and I was incredibly impressed. JL Chang has since finished seventh in the US Open 9-ball and then won the Japan Open, topping Orcullo in the semis and then Yang in the final.

It's just incredible how well he plays and I expect more big things of him on the world stage.
 
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Johnnyt said:
I can't see wasting my time watching poor quality productions of pool on ESPN that are not live. I also try not to ever watch ESPN just because the way they treated/treat pool as a filler. Johnnyt
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To me, the production quality was about as good as it gets in terms of the video. What I dislike is that the matches are edited to fit the one hour show length while including many commercials and other breaks.

In today's first match, which went 14 games [0-5, 5-3, 1-0 SVB over Chang], they skipped two games entirely and showed only part of two other games.

In the second match, which went 16 games [2-5, 5-3, 1-0 Appleton over Orcollo], they omitted four games entirely.

In the finals, which went 12 games [5-1, 5-1 Appleton over SVB], they omitted one game entirely.

In his two matches, SVB was beaten 18-8 overall in games! But I guess he made up for it later that week at the U.S. Open!
 
Celtic

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sjm said:
JL Chang is a superstar who made it clear he belonged in the company of Shane, Orcullo, and Appleton. I was there at Mohegan Sun and I was incredibly impressed. JL Chang has since finished seventh in the US Open 9-ball and then won the Japan Open, topping Orcullo in the semis and then Yang in the final.

It's just incredible how well he plays and I expect more big things of him on the world stage.
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Uhh, yeah, he was the number 1 player in Taiwan a while ago, long before this trip to the USA. He tore the Guiness tour to pieces in 2007 and 2008, look at the freaking fields in these events he won...

http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showtourney2008.php?eventnum=103
http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showtourney2008.php?eventnum=158
http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showtourney2008.php?eventnum=220
http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showtourney2007.php?eventnum=137
http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showtourney2007.php?eventnum=190
http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showtourney2007.php?eventnum=271

He is not new, he has been a MAJOR force at the elite level of pro pool in the toughest area on this planet for a long time now.

He did not prove he belongs along side of SVB and the rest of those guys in the CoC this year, he proved to be that level of player years ago and most people in America simply do not have a clue about some of the top talent across the Pacific.

Saying what you said is akin to saying "I think this week SVB really proved he belongs alongside Jung Lin Chang and Appleton after his finish in the US Open in 2012, I expect big things from him in the future." That would sound fairly disrespectful TBH and negate all of the things that SVB has done in the past, just like your comment disrespected the serious dominance CHang has shown in Asia for years now, as if that does not "really" count.

I know this was probably not your intent SJM, but Chang has not just now arrived and he is not an up and coming star, he has been a world class top 10 player on this planet for years and everyone at the pro level in Asia (the Phillipines, China, Taiwan) knew it. If anything I think SVB's win at the US Open showed he is right up there with Chang and the other elite level players on this planet then the other way around.
 
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peteypooldude

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No, Darren won the first game of the first set on a B&R, Shane won the second game on a B&R, and then Darren won the last 4 games of the set for a 5-1 win.
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That is correct. Shane and Darren both ran their first racks of the first set
 
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Celtic said:
Uhh, yeah, he was the number 1 player in Taiwan a while ago, long before this trip to the USA. He tore the Guiness tour to pieces in 2007 and 2008...
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I think you made your case! Has he taken a step back since 2008, or played less for some reason, or has he had other top finishes that are just unknown to most of us?

Edit: I see he has two major wins this year -- the World 8-Ball Championship and the All Japan Championship and a big Beijing Open win last year.
 
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