SVB vs Mike D.

i don't care who's a favorite or who can't hang with who. all i know is i'd watch a match with mike and svb. it'd be good tv.
not sure why everyone gives mike such a hard time yet a lot of them seem to give earl a pass for a lot of the same shenanigans (not saying everyone that roasts mike is an earl fan...but i've come across quite a few that talk about how bad mike is yet have no issues with earl). bottom line...that match would be fun to watch.
 
I wonder how Rodney Morris would do in a long race against other top guys like Shane, Orcullo, Shaw, Dechaine, Earl, etc. It seems like Rodney is never included in discussion of hypothetical match ups.
 
westcoast said:
I wonder how Rodney Morris would do in a long race against other top guys like Shane, Orcullo, Shaw, Dechaine, Earl, etc. It seems like Rodney is never included in discussion of hypothetical match ups.
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Personally, I like Morris over all of them! I think Morris has is a better player. He only lacks a solid break! But then again, it is part of the game so, Morris falls below:( my 2 favorite players, Alex and Rodney! You can't do better:)

Great post:)
 
Chops02 said:
i don't care who's a favorite or who can't hang with who. all i know is i'd watch a match with mike and svb. it'd be good tv.
not sure why everyone gives mike such a hard time yet a lot of them seem to give earl a pass for a lot of the same shenanigans (not saying everyone that roasts mike is an earl fan...but i've come across quite a few that talk about how bad mike is yet have no issues with earl). bottom line...that match would be fun to watch.
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Weird i was just thinking to myself that with everything that Earl has accomplished the first thing that comes to almost everyone's mind when they hear his name is the shenanigans.

I know MD has publicly said that he wants to change his behavior but there hasnt been much sign of that from what i've seen and if he stays how he is now the only thing he'll be remembered as in 30 years is the same as Earl except with a lot less titles.
 
one stroke said:
sjm said:
one stroke said:
Any time they hook up again in a long race winner breaks by all means please look me up I'll take Shane the underdog
And to show u what kinda sport I am I'll even take him even
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sjm just finished explaining how SVB was a definite favorite over Mike (and every other American) in a race to 100.

He added that iho, long races fall outside of normal pro competition and that these are really more of an exhibition.

so why then are you asking that he look you up to bet with you if they should play a long race again with you taking "Shane the underdog"? :confused:

best,
brian kc
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I'm going to keep my opinion of who I would think would win a race to 100 out of it, but I did want to make a point. Long races to 100 or more are often not played in the same day. For example, The Color of Money between Reyes and Strickland was played over the course of a couple of days.

With that logic, you can add up all the matches that SVB and Mike D. have played in the past year or so and tally up where their "race to 100" currently stands.
 
Solomon said:
With that logic, you can add up all the matches that SVB and Mike D. have played in the past year or so and tally up where their "race to 100" currently stands.
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Assuming they have played each other enough times in the past year, then whoever has won the most games all added up from those head to head matches is for sure a much better indicator of who the better player is than a race to 100 is. And using their win/loss records from all their head to head matches in the past year would be a close second. The reason is because the shorter races have a ton more pressure and nobody is going into "coasting" or "give up mode". You are getting 100% effort, 100% of the time. Another reason is because a race to 100 measures stamina, and we are trying to measure pool skills, not stamina. If you want to measure their stamina have them run a marathon. If you insist on having stamina be a factor then at least do a best of many smaller sets instead of the one single long set so the pressure is always at its greatest and they are always giving 100%. There are other reasons as well.
 
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Solomon said:
I'm going to keep my opinion of who I would think would win a race to 100 out of it, but I did want to make a point. Long races to 100 or more are often not played in the same day. For example, The Color of Money between Reyes and Strickland was played over the course of a couple of days.

With that logic, you can add up all the matches that SVB and Mike D. have played in the past year or so and tally up where their "race to 100" currently stands.
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Not really. Race to 100 is either 50 a day X 2 or 35/35/30. Huge difference there in racing to 9 sprint sets. Tournament play is a different animal than head to head to 100. Johnnyt
 
liakos said:
Personally, I like Morris over all of them! I think Morris has is a better player.
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Seriously?

Lumocolor said:
Weird i was just thinking to myself that with everything that Earl has accomplished the first thing that comes to almost everyone's mind when they hear his name is the shenanigans.

I know MD has publicly said that he wants to change his behavior but there hasnt been much sign of that from what i've seen and if he stays how he is now the only thing he'll be remembered as in 30 years is the same as Earl except with a lot less titles.
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Come on. Dechaine's behaviour isn't even close to being comparable to Earl's.
 
one stroke said:
Last time I checked breaking is part of the game ,, and since when does the challenger make the rules ,, Shane had zero reason to play Mike he certainly doesn't need the chump change Mikes offering maybe 20 k might spark his interest




Would Shane bet his own money? I've heard from a few players, that Shane is kind a nitty about gambling with his own money? Chump change?
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I am not sure if its true or not but in a podcast with MD shane said the most he has bet on himself of is own money was 20k, and came out winner opposed to MD's 3k
 
westcoast said:
I wonder how Rodney Morris would do in a long race against other top guys like Shane, Orcullo, Shaw, Dechaine, Earl, etc. It seems like Rodney is never included in discussion of hypothetical match ups.
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Rodney is too lax and does not have the shooting skill of Jayson Shaw to make up for it. He ends up out of line on shots due to just shooting without an exact plan of speed or position. In a longer race, he will be losing games due to carelessness too often to keep up.
 
backplaying said:
one stroke said:
Last time I checked breaking is part of the game ,, and since when does the challenger make the rules ,, Shane had zero reason to play Mike he certainly doesn't need the chump change Mikes offering maybe 20 k might spark his interest




Would Shane bet his own money? I've heard from a few players, that Shane is kind a nitty about gambling with his own money? Chump change?
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I don't think MD is the player that SVB is but if Shane took Mikes offer to play a race to 31 at Snookers on Mikes home table I think Mike would have punished him
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peteypooldude said:
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I don't think MD is the player that SVB is but if Shane took Mikes offer to play a race to 31 at Snookers on Mikes home table I think Mike would have punished him
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I don't think Mike would EVER punish Shane;) but I'll say this, generally, I like Shane 70-30 against Mike! At snookers?!?! I'd still take Shane but 60/40! Mike would definitely have a lot going for him at his own home room! But, like I stated in a previous thread, I watched Mike finish a match during the joss tour a few weeks ago and there were maybe 40-50 people watching, when Mike suck the last ball, nobody clapped for him! He's not well liked in his own room!

That being said, there are some people that need that negativity to get there game going! Not saying Mike is or isn't that type of player, but that could be a driving force for him!

I wouldn't mind seeing that match go down, race to 31,,,, Shane will come out of it on top, but it will be a very tough match for him! Plus, Mike needs to get his but in gear and start playing the top players if he's gonna really go somewhere!:)
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liakos said:
peteypooldude said:
I don't think Mike would EVER punish Shane;) but I'll say this, generally, I like Shane 70-30 against Mike! At snookers?!?! I'd still take Shane but 60/40! Mike would definitely have a lot going for him at his own home room! But, like I stated in a previous thread, I watched Mike finish a match during the joss tour a few weeks ago and there were maybe 40-50 people watching, when Mike suck the last ball, nobody clapped for him! He's not well liked in his own room!

That being said, there are some people that need that negativity to get there game going! Not saying Mike is or isn't that type of player, but that could be a driving force for him!

I wouldn't mind seeing that match go down, race to 31,,,, Shane will come out of it on top, but it will be a very tough match for him! Plus, Mike needs to get his but in gear and start playing the top players if he's gonna really go somewhere!:)
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Shane is not superhuman and Mike has beat him in a few short races before. Even though I've got the worst of it... If Shane drives 3 hours and hops on Mikes table for a short race then you got me. Mikes B&R % is sick on that table and I just don't think Shane can get his sh1t together quick enough to fade Mikes home table
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hang-the-9 said:
Rodney is too lax and does not have the shooting skill of Jayson Shaw to make up for it. He ends up out of line on shots due to just shooting without an exact plan of speed or position. In a longer race, he will be losing games due to carelessness too often to keep up.
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Agree. Rodney is always nice to watch fluid and fast like Tony Drago
They are top shooters/potters/shotmakers but their safety game is poor
Rodney rushes his shots under pressure and is not as mentally tough as he shows externally which is evident in previous MC. He talks to probably calm himself down but you can see he is nervous on the tough shots. :D
 
Johnnyt said:
Not really. Race to 100 is either 50 a day X 2 or 35/35/30. Huge difference there in racing to 9 sprint sets. Tournament play is a different animal than head to head to 100. Johnnyt
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A) 100 sets x Race to 1 over period of time or B) 1 set of Race to 100
Which is better indicator of skill?
Of cos A).
In the long run A) is like head to head record between 2 players. 2 players meet and play each other in different tourneys over time-then look at their head to head record and that will give idea of who is better player. That is how it is determined in other sports like tennis
 
spartan said:
A) 100 sets x Race to 1 over period of time or B) 1 set of Race to 100
Which is better indicator of skill?
Of cos A).
In the long run A) is like head to head record between 2 players. 2 players meet and play each other in different tourneys over time-then look at their head to head record and that will give idea of who is better player. That is how it is determined in other sports like tennis
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That is your opinion, not mine. As you know everyone has an opinion. Johnnyt
 
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