SVB vs Mike D.

Shane is not superhuman and Mike has beat him in a few short races before. Even though I've got the worst of it... If Shane drives 3 hours and hops on Mikes table for a short race then you got me. Mikes B&R % is sick on that table and I just don't think Shane can get his sh1t together quick enough to fade Mikes home table

Let's be fair:) if Shane stopped by snookers to play Mike a quick set to 15, and Shane and they both play out of the box cold,,,, Shane is gonna be lost!!! But,,, let Shane play the table for an hr or so, he will be all set! The table plays pretty tough, but I'm sure Shane will adjust rather quickly!

And as far as I'm concerned, all short races and the levels that those to beasts play at is pick ems match!! The long sets is where the skill comes in!

Also, tournement play is much different than gambling imho:) personally, I don't care for tournament wins! I've won a tourney with Mike and couple other local beasts myself! In no way shape or form am even in the same galaxy with those guys! I'm just a B player who got lucky in a tournament! For me, it's the after hrs where the real skill shows up:)

One more thing, I'm fairly confident Shane would quickly break well on that table! He does break better than Mike and he also learns rather quickly;) just sayin
 
Let's be fair:) if Shane stopped by snookers to play Mike a quick set to 15, and Shane and they both play out of the box cold,,,, Shane is gonna be lost!!! But,,, let Shane play the table for an hr or so, he will be all set! The table plays pretty tough, but I'm sure Shane will adjust rather quickly!

And as far as I'm concerned, all short races and the levels that those to beasts play at is pick ems match!! The long sets is where the skill comes in!

Also, tournement play is much different than gambling imho:) personally, I don't care for tournament wins! I've won a tourney with Mike and couple other local beasts myself! In no way shape or form am even in the same galaxy with those guys! I'm just a B player who got lucky in a tournament! For me, it's the after hrs where the real skill shows up:)

One more thing, I'm fairly confident Shane would quickly break well on that table! He does break better than Mike and he also learns rather quickly;) just sayin


I agree on all of the above
 
And as far as I'm concerned, all short races and the levels that those to beasts play at is pick ems match!! The long sets is where the skill comes in!


Yes, the many top players who prefer not to play inordinately long races are all without skill. In truth, just one player has a lot of experience in races of this length. Most of the top players find such a race ridiculous.

There's only one way to find out who's the best. Put all the top players in the same place at the same time and let them battle it out. Last man standing is the best.

The BCA HOF does not consider who does what in these "long-race" exhibitions in its inductions. That's just as it should be.

FYI, the short races are not pick'em at all. Shane's wins in the Derby City 9-ball event are far more impressive to me than any of his long race wins. At Derby City, he must beat them all to win the nine ball over a field of several hundred entrants. Truth is that at the Derby, almost nobody can beat Shane in a short race. Shane has lost just three matches in the last two years in the Derby City 9-ball, and two of them were to Mike Dechaine.

Anyone can beat Shane in a short race? The track record says you're very wrong. Of the American players, the only one that seems to beat Shane often on the big tables is Mike Dechaine, and yes, that means something.
 
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Yes, the many top players who prefer not to play inordinately long races are all without skill. In truth, just one player has a lot of experience in races of this length. Most of the top players find such a race ridiculous.

There's only one way to find out who's the best. Put all the top players in the same place at the same time and let them battle it out. Last man standing is the best.

The BCA HOF does not consider who does what in these "long-race" exhibitions in its inductions. That's just as it should be.

FYI, the short races are not pick'em at all. Shane's wins in the Derby City ball event are far more impressive to me than any of his long race wins. At Derby City, he must beat them all to win the nine ball over a field of several hundred entrants. Truth is that at the Derby, almost nobody can beat Shane in a short race. Shane has lost just three matches in the last two years in the Derby City 9-ball, and two of them were to Mike Dechaine.

Anyone can beat Shane in a short race? The track record says you're very wrong. Of the American players, the only one that seems to beat Shane often on the big tables is Mike Dechaine, and yes, that means something.

Yep, that about covers it
 
Short race, long race, no race, interviews, lesson pointers, etc... If its Dechaine I turn the switch to off position. He plays good but no charisma, his public appeal seems to be untrustworthy or detestation. Must be the way he looks and walks. His game is absolutely boring to watch like Dennis O. I don't know why most people dislike this guy and I don't know why I never care either now or in the future. I would rather watch a 14yo kid from another country before I watch this guy.

When he's winning nobody cares and people seem to hate on him. When he's losing people still hates on him. I can only suspect it's the energy he projects to the public.

In the Roman Era win or lose he would be booed in the colosseum and could never win his freedom.
 
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I thought the Rocket pulled the best reverse shark against Duchene when he took a picture of MD's shitty rack. I hope he posts it on AZ..
 
Let's be fair:) if Shane stopped by snookers to play Mike a quick set to 15, and Shane and they both play out of the box cold,,,, Shane is gonna be lost!!! But,,, let Shane play the table for an hr or so, he will be all set! The table plays pretty tough, but I'm sure Shane will adjust rather quickly!

And as far as I'm concerned, all short races and the levels that those to beasts play at is pick ems match!! The long sets is where the skill comes in!

Also, tournement play is much different than gambling imho:) personally, I don't care for tournament wins! I've won a tourney with Mike and couple other local beasts myself! In no way shape or form am even in the same galaxy with those guys! I'm just a B player who got lucky in a tournament! For me, it's the after
One more thing, I'm fairly confident Shane would quickly break well on that table! He does break better than Mike and he also learns rather quickly;) just sayin

Opooooops ... I quoted the wrong poster
 
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Yes, the many top players who prefer not to play inordinately long races are all without skill. In truth, just one player has a lot of experience in races of this length. Most of the top players find such a race ridiculous.

There's only one way to find out who's the best. Put all the top players in the same place at the same time and let them battle it out. Last man standing is the best.

The BCA HOF does not consider who does what in these "long-race" exhibitions in its inductions. That's just as it should be.

FYI, the short races are not pick'em at all. Shane's wins in the Derby City ball event are far more impressive to me than any of his long race wins. At Derby City, he must beat them all to win the nine ball over a field of several hundred entrants. Truth is that at the Derby, almost nobody can beat Shane in a short race. Shane has lost just three matches in the last two years in the Derby City 9-ball, and two of them were to Mike Dechaine.

Anyone can beat Shane in a short race? The track record says you're very wrong. Of the American players, the only one that seems to beat Shane often on the big tables is Mike Dechaine, and yes, that means something.

Are you sure it was MY post you read ?:confused:
 
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Shane is off to Europe to play as Earl's partner in 3 or 4 days....not the right time to get in a tough game. Well, at that level I guess they are all tough. Earl has him on a strict diet, workout regimen, and of course, early curfew
 
Sports around the world are all different. Some have long contests to determine the winner some have short ones.

Pool has both.

Shane is right now the best in the long race format at the 100 game distance and as the races get shorter his advantage diminishes until it's about a coin flip against many of the world's best players.

That's just how it is.
 
Sports around the world are all different. Some have long contests to determine the winner some have short ones.

Pool has both.

Shane is right now the best in the long race format at the 100 game distance and as the races get shorter his advantage diminishes until it's about a coin flip against many of the world's best players.

That's just how it is.

I suppose the trick is to find that perfect middle area where both sides are satisfied. Like four quarters for a football game. Or two 45 minute halves for soccer game.I'm sure there were those that argue why not fifty, should be longer, etc etc. Pool just has to find that happy area. Maybe race to fifteen? I'm not sure if it can be done...make everyone happy in pool.
 
I suppose the trick is to find that perfect middle area where both sides are satisfied. Like four quarters for a football game. Or two 45 minute halves for soccer game.I'm sure there were those that argue why not fifty, should be longer, etc etc. Pool just has to find that happy area. Maybe race to fifteen? I'm not sure if it can be done...make everyone happy in pool.

I think anywhere between 15 and 21 is fine for determining a winner. They aren't short races by any stretch of the imagination. If you lost going to 21, I think it's pretty safe to assume you were outplayed. They're also short enough to stop stamina becoming the deciding factor, and to keep the pressure on.
 
It has been noted by several that this problem exists on the forum in which the wrong poster is indicated when you reply to a post.

Sorry, Petey.

The exact same thing happen to me last night, as a matter of fact it was in this very same thread. :eek:
 
I suppose the trick is to find that perfect middle area where both sides are satisfied. Like four quarters for a football game. Or two 45 minute halves for soccer game.I'm sure there were those that argue why not fifty, should be longer, etc etc. Pool just has to find that happy area. Maybe race to fifteen? I'm not sure if it can be done...make everyone happy in pool.

The only way it could be done is with an absolute top down approach. If the WPA had any teeth then professional rules and races would have a standard just as golf does with the PGA. But even in the pro sports often there will be slight variances from country to country.

Pool is like a combination of all sports in that it's totally malleable. Tournament promoters simply make up whatever rules suit them. Leagues make up their own rules. And then there are the challenge matches, negotiated like boxing with match length, purse, dates, equipment etc...all up for negotiation.

In one way it's kind of cool that we have so many different formats. On the other hand it makes the "who is the best" conversation much harder.
 
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