SW and Whitten for trade

What a person paid for a cue has absolutely nothing in regards to the asking price or future value, etc of a cue. I don't know why some folks want to try and de-value a person's prospective sale by saying "I know how much you paid for that on Ebay..etc".

The cue will either sell for the asking price, or it won't. The market will determine that. If no one ever made a profit on a cue, there would be no need for a "Wanted/For Sale" forum.

BTW, Hal...sweet package at a great price. Wish I had something to offer for it.

JMHO

Joe
 
Hey Monto P2 your wrong. I paid more than that. Bad rep to you.
 
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Hal said:
Hey Monto P2 your wrong. I paid more than that. Bad rep to you.
Hal.....

Where do you get off trying to sell this cue at that price????

How dare you post up a nice SW cue and case? How dare you make it a package deal for what 95% would consider fair market value? How dare you market your items with pictures and a description? How dare you NOT mark the cue down to guarantee that you take a loss on it??

What has the world come to when a man posts up his items on a forum intended to encourage free trade?????

The nerve of some people.......


Nice cue, sir. Sent you a PM, by the way.
 
8-ball Rat. Sure I'd love to see pics of the Lucasi and Players j/b. Wow 2 cues for one. We just might have a deal.
 
Hal said:
8-ball Rat. Sure I'd love to see pics of the Lucasi and Players j/b. Wow 2 cues for one. We just might have a deal.
I think you're coming out on top in this deal of ours, Hal. Did I mention that the Lucasi has the Quick-Release joint....and TWO shafts?

That's like 2.5 cues for your 1. Hey....I'm willing to make the sacrifice for you. That's just the kind of guy I am.

Pics are on the way. Pay no mind to the dings and dents. Those are just character marks, and only increases the value of the Lucasi.
 
AlexB said:
What someone paid for a cue vis-a-vis current selling price is irrelevant. A seller sets a selling price, the prospective buyer can proceed accordingly to determine the value relative to them. In other words, it is none of your damn business what Hal paid for the cue, and it is rude and disrespectful to comment as such in his thread.
And to add to this the case is about 500 bucks???
 
AlexB said:
What someone paid for a cue vis-a-vis current selling price is irrelevant.

I hate to sidetrack, but I disagree with this. As a buyer (and occasional seller), I think those prices are very relevant.

There are very few cues that I'm going to keep for the "long haul" so to speak. Even cues I love and can't ever imagine selling, I've decided a few months down the road to sell. Therefore, what I can get in return for a cue has an impact on my initial purchase, because I don't want to be out hundreds of dollars on a purchase.

That's where the previous sale price comes in. If the cue sold last week for, say, 500, and I see it listed for 800 and really want it, then I should do my best not to actually pay 800, even if in a vacuum, that price is perfectly acceptable to me. This is because the market price for the cue, without me in it, is about 500. So if I'm going to resell the cue, I can only expect to get at most about 500 for it. Yes, sometimes I'll get lucky, but I have to be realistic.

Therefore, even if the cue is worth 800 to me on the surface, I will still try my best to get the price down to something where if I do decide to sell I won't be taking such a big hit (or, heck, even make money). That's simply being financially responsible.

So much like all the hordes of sellers on here get all upset whenever anyone shares previous selling price, basically saying "hey! we're trying to make money here!" well guess what, sometimes so are the buyers. Or at the very least, we're trying to minimize our losses.
 
If you really wanted it, you should have bought it last week for $500. Then you wouldn't be whining because the price has gone up.
 
Prior selling/buying price has nothing to do with it.... It's worth what someone is willing to pay.... Be it you or someone else - if you're purchasing something, you'd better be an informed consumer aware of market value.
 
8-ball Rat's cue was so nice that I went ahead and bought it outright.

Thanks again
Hal
 
Holy Sh*t!! Even the Wanted/For Sale section has turned into a train wreck!


Bottom line here is, it really is no one's business what someone paid for any given cue. And why in the world someone should feel entitled to know this information is beyond me. The asking price is what it is, and is entirely the seller's business. How he chooses to deal with offers/near offers or trades is his business as well....even so much so that he can choose who he wishes to deal with or not...it's HIS cue!!

BTW...there are those of us who also deal with one another as friends, and while in some cases, that might prove fortuitous...we would NEVER disclose such information for public consumption.

Not everyone acquires a cue for it's potential flip value.

Hal...best of luck in what ever you finally decide to do!!

Lisa
 
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Thanks for the kind words Lisa. I think I'm just gonna keep these items for now. Although I'm still waiting to hear from a certain member that I know will make a very good offer.
 
Rocket354 said:
I hate to sidetrack, but I disagree with this. As a buyer (and occasional seller), I think those prices are very relevant.

There are very few cues that I'm going to keep for the "long haul" so to speak. Even cues I love and can't ever imagine selling, I've decided a few months down the road to sell. Therefore, what I can get in return for a cue has an impact on my initial purchase, because I don't want to be out hundreds of dollars on a purchase.

That's where the previous sale price comes in. If the cue sold last week for, say, 500, and I see it listed for 800 and really want it, then I should do my best not to actually pay 800, even if in a vacuum, that price is perfectly acceptable to me. This is because the market price for the cue, without me in it, is about 500. So if I'm going to resell the cue, I can only expect to get at most about 500 for it. Yes, sometimes I'll get lucky, but I have to be realistic.

Therefore, even if the cue is worth 800 to me on the surface, I will still try my best to get the price down to something where if I do decide to sell I won't be taking such a big hit (or, heck, even make money). That's simply being financially responsible.

So much like all the hordes of sellers on here get all upset whenever anyone shares previous selling price, basically saying "hey! we're trying to make money here!" well guess what, sometimes so are the buyers. Or at the very least, we're trying to minimize our losses.
If someone is selling a cue for $300 that usually goes for $1000 and it gets stolen essentially and is relisted at a higher price then the initial $300 purchase doesnt matter,because someone paid $300 doesnt mean that the value is that,it just means he got a good deal.I think Hals cue is well worth over $1500 because its very rare so him looking for trades around $1700 is very reasonable. :)
 
The cue is a beauty

How about a positive bump to set this in the right direction and people unless they are interested in the sale keep their messaging to themselves by sending a PM when they have something critical to say.
 
Fast Lenny said:
If someone is selling a cue for $300 that usually goes for $1000 and it gets stolen essentially and is relisted at a higher price then the initial $300 purchase doesnt matter,because someone paid $300 doesnt mean that the value is that,it just means he got a good deal.I think Hals cue is well worth over $1500 because its very rare so him looking for trades around $1700 is very reasonable. :)

Thanks Lenny. That $1700 also included a Whitten case that's worth every bit of $300.
 
Hal said:
Thanks Lenny. That $1700 also included a Whitten case that's worth every bit of $300.
Closer to $400 value for that case....but that's just my opinion.
 
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