Swaping Greyhounds for AZB

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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I believe I'm going back in the Greyhound biz in a much smaller way than before...maybe six pups. I can't find a hobby I like to keep me off of AZB. At least I can watch my dogs race on stream or in person and bet on them if I want. Starting research 5,4,3,2,1...now. Johnnyt
 
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I volunteer for Greyhound Adoption League of Texas here in Fort Worth. Have owned three of them - they are awesome pets and love to run.
 
Johnnyt said:
I believe I'm going back in the Greyhound biz in a much smaller way than before...maybe six pups. I can't find a hobby I like to keep me off of AZB. At least I can watch my dogs race on stream or in person and bet on them if I want. Starting research 5,4,3,2,1...now. Johnnyt
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I hope you're the kind of person who plans for the dog's post-retirement years. You seem like you are. I volunteer in dog rescue/adoption and we see too many dogs abandoned after they've outlived their usefulness to their owner.
 
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I hope you're the kind of person who plans for the dog's post-retirement years. You seem like you are. I volunteer in dog rescue/adoption and we see too many dogs abandoned after they've outlived their usefulness to their owner.
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Pit Bulls are the shelter problem really. I will never get my head around why so many seemingly normal people get them. Our local shelters are jammed with them.
You would think the name PIT BULL would be enough of a tipoff. The last guy who told me how gentle his dogs were came home to a bloody yard full of dead small farm animals when his 2 pit bulls were left to roam.

But to your point, Greyhounds are cool dogs although apparently not all the racing dogs are adoptable. In fact we have a pretty good sized annual greyhound owner meeting where I live and the dogs are great to be around. Adopting them doesn't seem to be a serious problem like the fighting dogs. Yes I said fighting dogs, and no its not the dogs fault that people in the cities (and some remote areas too) have decided that it's really macho to have a fighting dog. Yes America, people really do breed these dogs to fight...that's why they are called PIT BULLS isn't it? If you breed them as pets...you are contributing to the problem.
Before anybody comments on my post I am ADD...I admit it.:):)
 
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Pit Bulls are the shelter problem really. I will never get my head around why so many seemingly normal people get them. Our local shelters are jammed with them.
You would think the name PIT BULL would be enough of a tipoff. The last guy who told me how gentle his dogs were came home to a bloody yard full of dead small farm animals when his 2 pit bulls were left to roam.

But to your point, Greyhounds are cool dogs although apparently not all the racing dogs are adoptable. In fact we have a pretty good sized annual greyhound owner meeting where I live and the dogs are great to be around. Adopting them doesn't seem to be a serious problem like the fighting dogs. Yes I said fighting dogs, and no its not the dogs fault that people in the cities (and some remote areas too) have decided that it's really macho to have a fighting dog. Yes America, people really do breed these dogs to fight...that's why they are called PIT BULLS isn't it? If you breed them as pets...you are contributing to the problem.
Before anybody comments on my post I am ADD...I admit it.:):)
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Regarding Pit Bulls they aren't all bad dogs its just how the owner raises them. You can take any dog and make them into a fighter. My two best friends have 2 pit bulls and they are the most loving dogs I have ever seen. It is all in the owner in my opinion but it is sad that they have such a bad rep because they are great dogs.

My pool instructor has a retired racing greyhound that is just amazing. Very cool pattern dog, almost looks like a zebra patter but with brown and black. Greyhounds seem like very good dogs, best of luck on your new adventure.
 
lost said:
Pit Bulls are the shelter problem really. I will never get my head around why so many seemingly normal people get them. Our local shelters are jammed with them.
You would think the name PIT BULL would be enough of a tipoff. The last guy who told me how gentle his dogs were came home to a bloody yard full of dead small farm animals when his 2 pit bulls were left to roam.

But to your point, Greyhounds are cool dogs although apparently not all the racing dogs are adoptable. In fact we have a pretty good sized annual greyhound owner meeting where I live and the dogs are great to be around. Adopting them doesn't seem to be a serious problem like the fighting dogs. Yes I said fighting dogs, and no its not the dogs fault that people in the cities (and some remote areas too) have decided that it's really macho to have a fighting dog. Yes America, people really do breed these dogs to fight...that's why they are called PIT BULLS isn't it? If you breed them as pets...you are contributing to the problem.
Before anybody comments on my post I am ADD...I admit it.:):)
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In the early 1900s Pit Bulls (American Staffordshire Terrier) were nicknamed "Nanny Dogs" because they were so good with kids. Remember the dog on The Little Rascals? Pit Bull Terrier.

It all depends on how they're raised and trained. I've known Pit Bulls who were the sweetest dogs in the neighborhood, and others who had to be put down because we couldn't risk adopting them out.

I approach any unfamiliar dog (and I work with lots of unfamiliar dogs) with caution and respect, regardless of breed.
 
Ty-Tanic said:
Regarding Pit Bulls they aren't all bad dogs its just how the owner raises them. You can take any dog and make them into a fighter. My two best friends have 2 pit bulls and they are the most loving dogs I have ever seen. It is all in the owner in my opinion but it is sad that they have such a bad rep because they are great dogs.

My pool instructor has a retired racing greyhound that is just amazing. Very cool pattern dog, almost looks like a zebra patter but with brown and black. Greyhounds seem like very good dogs, best of luck on your new adventure.
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Good luck to your friend if he has to explain to the court that he had no idea that his nice friendly "pit bull" hurt somebody. By the way all pet owners think their dogs are like heavenly creatures, just like everybody's kids are the cutest ever.
Ask your friend if he would trust his dogs home alone with little kids. Not saying it would be a good idea with any largish dog, but it would be complete and utter madness to do it with pitbulls.
2 pit bulls killed the owners own kid about 10 days ago not all that far from where I live. I'm sure he thought they were sweet too. These stories aren't uncommon. Seems quite a few pit bull owners aren't big on reading.

Edit, i just googled and found another May 8 in my area. A 4 year old boy playing outside with the neighbors pit bulls was mauled to death by them when they turned on him. I'd post the link but it's probably not in good taste.
If I lived in a neighborhood, and had children of my own and somebody moved in next door with pit bulls...well lets just say it wouldn't work out too well for the dogs. You would be a pretty irresponsible parent to not do something. You want the link for this one? PM me if that's available on this forum.
Now when it's too late everybody says what a tragedy and dang I knew those dogs might be trouble.
Here's a good one I hear from pit bull lovers. The kid must have been teasing the dog and that's why he attacked. News flash....kids tease animals...animals that can swiftly kill a child belong in zoo cages not your neighborhood.
Yep other dogs can kill...its just that pit bulls kill a LOT more. I never even saw a pit bull until maybe 20 years ago? Now people for some insane reason breed the animals like they are cocker spaniels or something. Nobody and I mean nobody can come up with a logical reason for this except they think it's macho or they are protection from something (usually drug enforcement or other gang members) or they want to fight them.
Shelters are struggling financially because of these dogs. What more do people need to know?

Oh ya I forgot. I like GREYHOUNDS :wink:
 
bdorman said:
I hope you're the kind of person who plans for the dog's post-retirement years. You seem like you are. I volunteer in dog rescue/adoption and we see too many dogs abandoned after they've outlived their usefulness to their owner.
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Out of the about 100 Racing Greyhounds I owned myself or the ones bought in a syndicate with Charter Kennels that we bought over 100 high priced pups at the NGA annual meets/auctions, I/we gave $75- $100 on each pup to one of the Greyhound adoption groups in that dogs name and would pay to ship dog from racing kennel to the group that he was tagged for upon retirement. Johnnyt

PS: what happened to Pit Bulls and most dog breeds over many years is all the backyard breeding and breeders that didn't know or care what they bred.
 
Johnnyt said:
Out of the about 100 Racing Greyhounds I owned myself or the ones bought in a syndicate with Charter Kennels that we bought over 100 high priced pups at the NGA annual meets/auctions, I/we gave $75- $100 on each pup to one of the Greyhound adoption groups in that dogs name and would pay to ship dog from racing kennel to the group that he was tagged for upon retirement. Johnnyt

PS: what happened to Pit Bulls and most dog breeds over many years is all the backyard breeding and breeders that didn't know or care what they bred.
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Geeze guy...all respect to ya :smile:

Yep the breeders have messed up a lot of breeds especially over sized German Shepherds. Its a messed up macho thing, and I could insert a comment about insecurity here but I won't...actually I did:wink:

But people get all sensitive and upset when you try to point out the obvious
 
Dogs are cool, but you have to feed em, and pick up after em.
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Look out, Bruce had another Epiphany.

Yeah, just like Kids. Only difference being, Dogs don't end up being whiny ingrates for the next 20 or so years.

They're happy to go for a walk or car ride, a pat on the head and a special treat at dinner time.

They don't kill their owners if they don't get an Apple IPhone or Video console for their Birthday.

In fact, if I had realized many years ago, the love and loyalty of a dog as opposed to marriage, I now know which way I would have went on that one.

I still have 2 little Yappers, 3 actually but I am married to that one, but always looking for that one Pit Bull at the Humane Society.
 
The bottom line is yes, some "mean" dogs can be raised friendly, but why bother?

Deaths to humans from 2005-2011

Pit Bull Terrier - 207
Rottweiller - 78
Bullmastif - 11


The list almost disappears after that.....of course, other dogs don't have the bite force of a Rottweiller or PB Terrier, at 328 and 235 respectively. Not to mention the share strength of those breeds which makes it a lot harder to fight off.

An American wolf bite force is 406, ones that actually have to catch their own dinner, and tear through bone.

Not really sure why someone would want to raise a pet that can cause this much damage to someone else, not to mention raise your insurance rates on your home? Is having the "toughest" dog on the block really that cool ?

And if you have one of these breeds and it is friendly and never hurt anyone... that's great for you... but these are the stats, and I'm not picking on you personally ;)
 
Once a trait like aggression is bred into a breed of dog, it would take many years of breeding if you could find a good male and female that didn't have the aggressive gene. IMO it could never be done with Pits, or it would take stop all breeding of them and only let breeders that know how to breed to take unwanted things out of the breed and how to put wanted things into them. It would take about a century if done right. Never happen.

Breed two Racing Greyhounds that one or both of them ran wide when they raced and most if not all of there pups that make the track will run wide. When they are starting from the inside boxes (1-4) most will try to get outside as soon as possible, usually getting bumped before the 1st turn. If you have a wide running dog he better draw the #8 box or be a super breaker from the inside boxes to get to the front first and then he/she can drift to their comfort zone to the outside. Johnnyt
 
The list almost disappears after that
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Except for the small ones that stand in front of you when going down the basement stairs.

Awww, Master fell down. That'll teach him for forgetting the Beggin Strips last night.

And Tibetan Mastiffs haven't killed anyone? You may as well have a male Lion in your yard as one of those. They have several new and older breeds of Kibble eating killing machines out there.
I would almost bet that Pit Bulls pale in comparison with some of those. Actually, you have a Husky or Husky cross in your picture.
Should check and see what the bite average is on one of those.

Pit Bull Terrier - 207
Rottweiller - 78
Bullmastif - 11

Thats actually not a bad average for 6 years compared to how many people get offed on a daily basis daily for some stupid reason in North America.
I mean the Darwin Awards beat that daily.
 
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Johnny;

I like your style, sir, and good luck to you if you decide to get back into the greyhound game.

I have owned two greyhounds as pets and, yes, they are wonderful dogs.

Switching gears, regarding pit bulls and even mixed dogs who have some pit in them, I have absolutely no use for or desire to be around these dogs.

To the people who say I don't understand and that pit bulls can be terrific dogs to own, I say I can point you to myriad news reports of these dogs doing serious harm or even death along with the accompanying owners declarations of how 'Spike never showed any aggression before'. :rolleyes:

I don't care how they got to be this way but I'm convinced there's more to it than how they were raised. There appears to be something the this breed's dna that when it gets triggered triggered, becomes real ugly.

I feel so strongly about this that I also believe anyone who is stupid enough to leave their children around a pit bull, that if anything bad happens to their kids, these adults should be held responsible.

Anyone who would want to counter what I'm saying with cuddly pictures or videos with kids playing with pit bulls, save it for another idiot.

I can show plenty of alternate pictures where things didn't work out so well for children and pit bulls.

off soapbox. :wink:

Good luck whatever you do, Johnny. :thumbup:

best,
brian kc
 
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They're Terriers. Show me a Terrier breed that isn't feisty.

I almost never met a Jack Russel that wasn't an A Hole in some fashion.

Forgot Dobermans. One of the biggest Square Head breed you can get.
 
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Blue Hog ridr said:
And Tibetan Mastiffs haven't killed anyone? You may as well have a male Lion in your yard as one of those. They have several new and older breeds of Kibble eating killing machines out there.

I would almost bet that Pit Bulls pale in comparison with some of those. Actually, you have a Husky or Husky cross in your picture.
Should check and see what the bite average is on one of those.

Pit Bull Terrier - 207
Rottweiller - 78
Bullmastif - 11

Thats actually not a bad average for 6 years compared to how many people get offed on a daily basis daily for some stupid reason in North America.
I mean the Darwin Awards beat that daily.
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Who said they have not killed anyone... but it's less than 11..... Pit Bull Terrier is NUMBER UNO... maybe I did not mention, but assumed you knew the list shown was the top three in the man killer category.

So, you might wanna keep your cash in your wallet on this one....

Yeah, because more folks are killed in auto crashes, gun violence, etc, we should just not care about other ways folks die, especially when it's so preventable....

C'mon Hog... why so defensive. I have a Husky in my picture that clearly shows it is NOT my dog, it is a University mascot, that even though it comes out to every home football game, and is always on a leash.
 
Another Pit Bull attack yesterday about 40 miles away from me in a small rural town. The 4 year old child is expected to survive but was severely injured by his own relatives pit bulls who lived next door. The dogs were both euthanized, but the owners unfortunately weren't. I'm jesting...although these stories are no joke.
I will never understand people breeding these dogs. Face it, there is no logical explanation. Is it so you can tell your friends...my dog can beat up your dog? Actually that's exactly what it is.

Anyway...sorry I know this thread is supposed to be about greyhounds. I just get frustrated.
 
PINKLADY said:
JT, we had a deal - you can't leave AZB.
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Not leaving AZB. Bad time for me to be trying to buy Racing Greyhound pups. I missed the NGA Meet and Auction (April) where you can watch young pups 14-18 months old race 4 pups at a time and bid on them at the auction after the races. At least you know your getting a pup that will make a track. Weather he/she makes a major track and stays healthy for you to make a profit on then is another thing.

What you don't want to do is buy 10 month or older pup from a breeder. They already know the best in the litters and you won't be seeing them. There in the field back in the woods. LOL.

Also most of the breeders, trainers, and racing kennels I use to deal with are dead, too old and retired, or biz has been handed down the 3rd generation. Oh well, it was a bit of a trip down memory lane. Johnnyt
 
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