Table delivered not in exact specs

Glen, thanks for the advice. I'm seriously consider negotiating with the seller for a price without the extension work.

realkingcobra said:
You made one mistake in this sales transaction, assuming the seller of the table....also had the skills to tighten up the pockets correctly. It blows me away that so many people who buy pool tables, just assume everyone must know how to tighten up pockets correctly....right? If it was such common knowledge there wouldn't be so many screwed up pool tables around the country!
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Well, FWIW, I did contact you while I was shopping but it was when you were dealing with the aftermath of the accident, so I didn't pursue further when you didn't reply.
 
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GoldCrown said:
It will most likely (hopefully) work out in the end. Make a decision and enjoy what you have or make adjustments. How much is aggravation worth. How much is your time worth. Is it worth waiting for?
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I have access to many pool tables within 30 mins of drive but having one at home is highly convenient. I live a busy life and it does get frustrated when dealing with unorganized people, especially when those scheduled to meet, then called to tell me they couldn't make it after an hour of waiting. I just want a table of my specs at home, but so far, the experience of getting one has been difficult. If this was how I perform at work, I'd have been homeless by now.
 
I think you are being overly impatient. The table will last a lifetime...best to get it done right and have to wait a bit longer than expected, imo.
 
donuteric said:
If this was how I perform at work, I'd have been homeless by now.
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I totally agree with you. There is no substitute for a quality job.
A lot of incompetence. A lot. But like Real King said...most installers are rookies that have 1 month experience times x amount of years.
Sadly when a new table is purchased we get the same installers. My new GC4 had to be redone. Pocket width was sporadic. Level was "almost". Castings over tightened.
 
Black-Balled said:
I think you are being overly impatient. The table will last a lifetime...best to get it done right and have to wait a bit longer than expected, imo.
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I know I'm not exactly the most patient person in the world and you're not the first one who reminds me of that. Truthfully speaking, if I were to pay a deposit, I'd most certainly be much less patient. It just baffles me that wildly inaccurate estimation of time somehow seems acceptable in the pool world.
 
donuteric said:
I know I'm not exactly the most patient person in the world and you're not the first one who reminds me of that. Truthfully speaking, if I were to pay a deposit, I'd most certainly be much less patient. It just baffles me that wildly inaccurate estimation of time somehow seems acceptable in the pool world.
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I hear ya...

This is Ames, Mr.!
 
donuteric said:
Glen, thanks for the advice. I'm seriously consider negotiating with the seller for a price without the extension work.



Well, FWIW, I did contact you while I was shopping but it was when you were dealing with the aftermath of the accident, so I didn't pursue further when you didn't reply.
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And it's still not done, not even after having an MRI done on my knee, and meeting with the surgeon. His advice was he can't do anything but make it worse and is recommending a complete knee replacement done. That won't happen anytime soon, so....i'm getting a custom knee brace made in the meantime, but don't have that yet either.
 
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realkingcobra said:
And it's still not done, not even after having an MRI done on my knee, and meeting with the surgeon. His advice was he can't do anything but make it worse and is recommending a complete knee replacement done. That won't happen anytime soon, so....i'm getting a custom knee brace made in the meantime, but don't have that yet either.
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I'm really sorry to hear that. Feel better!
 
RKC, everything looks the same to me GC3/GC4.
Corner pieces now bright silver and pockets flush with the rails are the only differences between then two I have owned that I can see.

This latest deal was a one time sale from a local hall switching to diamonds.
 
JolietJames said:
RKC, everything looks the same to me GC3/GC4.
Corner pieces now bright silver and pockets flush with the rails are the only differences between then two I have owned that I can see.

This latest deal was a one time sale from a local hall switching to diamonds.
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I guess that was kind of my point. If you put GC4 rails on a GC3 frame, you still have a GC4, not a mixed GC3/GC4. The GC4 frame crossmembers are different than the GC3 frame, but....the last of the GC3s came out with the newer GC4 frames, yet where still sold as GC3s....right?
 
Christmas came early. The extension was done and everything was installed by a quality table mechanic. Table finally plays great and the side pockets really keep me honest. All my one hole buddies are pretty happy with the corner pockets. I'm one happy pool player.

Thanks for those who commented. You all have a great and safe holiday season!

Cheers.
 
gxman said:
Your Fargo must be near 800?

4.25" corners and 4.5" sides is tough!
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Pocket size and penis size are linked in what you want to brag about, just in opposite sides of the scale. The smaller the pocket, the prouder you can announce what you have. Good practice table, but not something I'd like to play a real match on or have fun with friends on.
 
donuteric said:
Christmas came early. The extension was done and everything was installed by a quality table mechanic. Table finally plays great and the side pockets really keep me honest. All my one hole buddies are pretty happy with the corner pockets. I'm one happy pool player.

Thanks for those who commented. You all have a great and safe holiday season!

Cheers.
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Glad to hear it worked out as hoped. Pay the man.

Merry Christmas
 
Good Luck with your new pockets - if you are a 14.1 player and ever run 50 balls on 4.25 inch pockets - put it on the tube and I'll send you a C note! So you play one hole on this set up- banking must be a pure joy- must make time stand still just to play one rack.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Pocket size and penis size are linked in what you want to brag about, just in opposite sides of the scale. The smaller the pocket, the prouder you can announce what you have. Good practice table, but not something I'd like to play a real match on or have fun with friends on.
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Agreed.
Around California you will find pool halls with tighter pockets than those.
One infamous table at Hard Times is so tough Shane and Bustamante mentioned it.
Shane won't even gamble on that table.
 
You are right about the difficulty of running 50 on a 4-1/4" corner pocket table! Having practiced 14.1 for high runs on various sized table pockets in our poolroom, my guesstimate is a 50 ball run on 4-1/4" pockets (and assuming sides of proportionately tighter specs) is the equivalent of a roughly 100 ball run on 4-1/2" pockets, a 125 ball run on 4-3/4" pockets, or a 150 ball run on a table with 5" corner pockets. Curious, is that about what you'd figure?
 
donuteric said:
Christmas came early. The extension was done and everything was installed by a quality table mechanic. Table finally plays great and the side pockets really keep me honest. All my one hole buddies are pretty happy with the corner pockets. I'm one happy pool player.

Thanks for those who commented. You all have a great and safe holiday season!

Cheers.
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Just curious, with the subrail extension job they performed for you, if you have no more than a 1/8" pocket facing on the ends of each cushion? 3/16" is not too bad, but if they used 1/4" facings, or stacked two 1/8" facings, or even more than that, the table and pockets will not play well - with too much "dead cushion" coming in to play when the ball hits the facing material outside of the pocket mouth instead of rebounding off cushion rubber.

No disrespect to the majority of hard working and reputable table mechanics, but not too many local table mechanics know the true way to correctly extend subrails like the very top mechanics, so that when your done, you still only have 1/8" facings. I hope you got lucky!
 
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