Table Make/Model?
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It's got some GC looking corner pocket and side pocket castings, but it's not a GC. No GC used side skirts like the ones pictured. Even the rail bolt nut plates are wrong for a GC. Take some pictures of the tops of the rails, including the pocket castings.Sporto said:
Glen
In fact, it's not a GC at all. GC's 1 & 2 side skirts mounted to the rails using the aluminum fitted slots. GC 3's bolted the side skirts to the rails, but used floating nut plates, GC 4's are the same way.Sporto said:
Glen
Rails look like it's made of mahagony and the foot rail blind is all wrong. nice looking table anyways. It's the closet thing to a gc I have I seen in awhile. I bought one last year but it had granite for slates and the frame was just 2 4x4 with not holes to screw the slate down it just floated on top of the frame.
This table doesnt look like it is cheaply made it looks like a great player, best copy I ever seen.
Best of luck with it,
Craig
This table doesnt look like it is cheaply made it looks like a great player, best copy I ever seen.
Best of luck with it,
Craig
Is it possible you guys could be mistaken? I have shown Marvin Eisenhauer from Brunswick Billiards these same pictures and here was Marvin's response:
"You have a Gold Crown table but I am not sure which one. The way the aprons are attached with the wood cleats was implemented on the GC III but the round plate to attach the rails to the slate was used on the GC I and GCII. The GCIII had the floating nut plate in the rail. This could be a combination of two tables."
I'm trying to be fair to the Tech that sold me this table and represented it as a GC III but at the same time I paid GC money for this table and I expect a true GC.
"You have a Gold Crown table but I am not sure which one. The way the aprons are attached with the wood cleats was implemented on the GC III but the round plate to attach the rails to the slate was used on the GC I and GCII. The GCIII had the floating nut plate in the rail. This could be a combination of two tables."
I'm trying to be fair to the Tech that sold me this table and represented it as a GC III but at the same time I paid GC money for this table and I expect a true GC.
In the picture of the rail counters, GC's didn't use a solid block of wood requiring 2 bolts to hold it in place like pictured. The ball box was held on with 2 bolts.....where's them bolts?....GC3...bullshit...you can tell that guy I said so too. There shouldn't be ANY block of wood bolted across where the ball box mounts.Sporto said:
Glen
Definitely not a gold crown!!! those are not even the right style inserts for older crowns. rails were never made out of mahogany. look at the apron corners, those
are bolts. early crowns used a 2pt metal bracket while 3 and 4s used small wood screws. in the first picture the frame does not even look correct. frames were not square, had cutouts for pockets.
are bolts. early crowns used a 2pt metal bracket while 3 and 4s used small wood screws. in the first picture the frame does not even look correct. frames were not square, had cutouts for pockets.
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Like I said, the guy...your "Friend" that sold you this table as a GC3 needs to be hung up by his balls!!!!!!!!...LOLSporto said:
Glen
This is not, and I'll say it again...this is NOT a GC!
Sporto said:
Also notice in this pic of GC3's I have stored (bad pic though) that the skirt on the ballbox end does not go right up to the rail, its in 2 short pieces on each side of the ballbox, and the ballbox goes right up flush to underneath the rail. You seem to have a 1 piece skirt on that end with a cutout for the ballbox. Also notice the mounts for the ballbox are not the same as yours. You do not have a GC3.
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Gc inside blind cornrers don't go together like that. Looks like an older Gandy to me
Gc inside blind cornrers don't go together like that. Looks like an older Gandy to me
I have spent several hours looking at pictures of tables with no luck identifying what make/model this table is. It doesn't look exactly like any of the Gandy's, Palmer or AMF tables that are somewhat similar in appearance. I think the pic that shows how the ball rack mounts to the end rail is the one picture that can positively ID this table. Just need the right person to view this thread.
There was a thread several months ago on this same topic. It was determined that the table was made by National Billiards in the Cincinnatti, OH or Covington, KY area back in the 70's & 80's. I do not recall who posted it but he said he set up many many of them and it was definitely a National table and great GC knock-off's. I
f I DO recall correctly, he said they played like a GC if it's any consolation to the buyer.
Robin
f I DO recall correctly, he said they played like a GC if it's any consolation to the buyer.
Robin
TheTablePro said:
I e-mailed National billiards and they took a look at my pics on this thread and they are certain it is not a National table. They thought maybe it was Brunswick Medalist but the Medalists I have seen look distinctly different.
I also have an email out to BlattBilliards to see if they can identify. Anybody have any other ideas? Maybe this is a one of a kind table and worth $$$$! lol