Taper Roll???

FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I'm Gonna Get Flamed For This..... Taper Roll, Is When The Shaft Is Straight, But Has Been Finish Tapered By Hand, Or Hand Tapered Through The Years Of Cleaning/sanding. The Shaft Will Spin True In A Lathe, But Because Of Different Pressures At Different Points On The Shaft During Hand Sanding, There Are High/low Spots That Can Be Seen When The Shaft Is Rolled On The Table. But When The Shaft Is Rolled Elevated On The Roll, The Tip Doesn't Move, And When Spun In A Lathe It Is Straight.

Just Because The Light Under A Shaft Varies A Little, Doesn't Mean The Shaft Isn't Straight.

For Example..... A Cuemaker Finishes A "perfect" Shaft, A Player Choose To "clean" The Shaft With Fine Sandpaper, But Applies More Pressure To One Side Of The Shaft, Than He Does To The Other. Causing A Low Spot. If You Were To Roll It On A Table, The Light Under It Would Vary, But If Spun In A Lathe The Tip Still Wouldn't Wobble, Hence The Shaft Is Straight, But Shows A Taper Variance. This Taper Variance Is What I Call Taper Roll. I Would Say Taper Variance But Most People Would Just Look At Me All Confused.

To Me That Is The Proper Way To Use The Term "taper Roll", Although I Have Seen It Used By Unscrupulous Charachters To Describe A Warped Cue.

I've always called that phenomenon "eggshaped".......

Basically the center line on the cue is still straight but the diameter of the wood is not the same distance from the the center line at different given points up and down the cue.
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
I've always called that phenomenon "eggshaped".......

Basically the center line on the cue is still straight but the diameter of the wood is not the same distance from the the center line at different given points up and down the cue.

AGREED IT IS "EGGSHAPED" THAT'S WHERE THE LIGHT VARIANCE COMES FROM. IT'S ALSO WHAT I REFER TO AS "TAPER ROLL"....

OTHERS MAY HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS FOR THE WORDS, BUT THAT'S HOW I SEE PHRASE IT.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
AGREED IT IS "EGGSHAPED" THAT'S WHERE THE LIGHT VARIANCE COMES FROM. IT'S ALSO WHAT I REFER TO AS "TAPER ROLL"....

OTHERS MAY HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS FOR THE WORDS, BUT THAT'S HOW I SEE PHRASE IT.


Your explanation is probably as close to any that I would ever except as being able to use the term.

Your right.......it gets loosely thrown around to describe many other situations going on in a cue.
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
Your explanation is probably as close to any that I would ever except as being able to use the term.

Your right.......it gets loosely thrown around to describe many other situations going on in a cue.

THANKS... I THINK I TYPED MY EXPLANATION 4 OR 5 TIMES BEFORE I HAD IT WORDED THE WAY I WANTED.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
THANKS... I THINK I TYPED MY EXPLANATION 4 OR 5 TIMES BEFORE I HAD IT WORDED THE WAY I WANTED.

i know what the problem was - the explanation was not all in capitals!

guy
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
I've always called that phenomenon "eggshaped".......

Basically the center line on the cue is still straight but the diameter of the wood is not the same distance from the the center line at different given points up and down the cue.
Same here...I think that is just as bad as warped...
 
to an extent. i bet there is not cue on earth without a small amout of runout. masonh and manwon said it best. taper rioll is movement in the shaft without the tip leaving the table. like i said before though 10 different tables will produce 10 different rolls.
 
dave sutton said:
to an extent. i bet there is not cue on earth without a small amout of runout. masonh and manwon said it best. taper rioll is movement in the shaft without the tip leaving the table. like i said before though 10 different tables will produce 10 different rolls.
I saw a golf shaft tester test cue shafts one time.
Basically it bent shafts and the shafts rested on two wheels near the collar.
No shaft is absent of a stiffer side. ALL of them spun till they settled on one side.
Pred 314 included. So a 360* sweetspot is a pipe dream.
 
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