taper shaper problems???

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Trent

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ok guys i just got a taper shaper in on a trade and it cuts buts very well no issues there but i cant seem to cut shafts with out either having it come off the spur or having it chatter and cut the shaft to pieces

i have it turned down super slow cutting with the tip of a strait blade cutter and hardly any tension on the spring and it seems to still chatter and jump the shaft.

thanks in advance for the help, i already burnt threw 4 shafts hate to go threw to many more.
 
What speed are you turning at? (rpms?)

I had a similar problem recently and I was turning WAY too fast.

But this is a different problem, so my solution may be totally inappropriate.

My 2 cents,

Gary
 
Too little spring pressure gives harmonic vibration. You might try increasing the pressure and make sure your bits are like new sharp.
 
Make sure you have the slide adjustment right . The 2 allen bolts that hold the slide where you can bring it closer to you or back away , when you use a wing cutter you move all the way towards you . Unless you are making too deep a cut . Shafts should be cut at .020 or .030 each pass until you know you're limitations and at a moderate speed ... You also might try locking down the dead center screw , a little bees wax for a lubricant in the dead center hole . Taper Shapers are great machines if used and maintained properly ...:cool:
 
i think it was having not enough tension on the spring.

i added a little more and it cut very well the 6 wing cutter seems nice but expensive i have buy the strait bits for like 5-7 bucks where trhe wing cutter cost 10 times that amount.

the machine seems versatile and i like it but its going to take some getting used to.
 
geez.....I buy the straight bits for 99 cents at a local store.....carbide to....at least the cutter blade is.......pm me and I'll hook you up trent.....
 
In any cutting tool, be it a 1/32 drill bit or a diamond saw, you get what you pay for. I can't believe what I hear from some of you people. You pay 2000.00 for a machine and then complain that it won't cut correctly as you can't afford the cutting tool? Believe me, if this is the case then you have picked the wrong hobby to play with. If the cutter costs 300.00 then that is what has to be spent as good enough just plain ole is not, good enough.

Dick
 
Trent said:
i think it was having not enough tension on the spring.

i added a little more and it cut very well the 6 wing cutter seems nice but expensive i have buy the strait bits for like 5-7 bucks where trhe wing cutter cost 10 times that amount.

the machine seems versatile and i like it but its going to take some getting used to.
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Porter Cable 3-wing cutters cost about the same if you catch them on Ebay.
 
I agree with you Dick, somethings can be done with a cheaper tool, but others, like the bit used on a shaft machine, comes down to you get what you pay for. If your rough cutting lumber, a straight bit is fine But when it comes to shafts and fine cuts leading to the finished cut, you need to spend the money on the good 3 or 6 wing cutters. That cheap straight bit just cost you 4 shafts, so how much was that lession all total? A lot more than if you bought the better bits when you consider most people charge $100 + for a shaft. The better bits also last a lot longer than the cheap ones, therefore more return for the dollar spent.
It's hard to get started in this business due to the expense of materials and machinery/supplies. It took quite awhile for me to be able to start buying the right stuff, and it still isn't easy. But I have learned that somethings are best done with the correct tool and you need to spend the money that it costs, as the other way, as you think your saving money, can cost quite a bit more in the long run.
Dave
 
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Dave38 said:
I agree with you Dick, somethings can be done with a cheaper tool, but others, like the bit used on a shaft machine, comes down to you get what you pay for. If your rough cutting lumber, a straight bit is fine But when it comes to shafts and fine cuts leading to the finished cut, you need to spend the money on the good 3 or 6 wing cutters. That cheap straight bit just cost you 4 shafts, so how much was that lession all total? A lot more than if you bought the better bits when you consider most people charge $100 + for a shaft. The better bits also last a lot longer than the cheap ones, therefore more return for the dollar spent.
It's hard to get started in this business due to the expense of materials and machinery/supplies. It took quite awhile for me to be able to start buying the right stuff, and it still isn't easy. But I have learned that somethings are best done with the correct tool and you need to spend the money that it costs, as the other way, as you think your saving money, can cost quite a bit more in the long run.
Dave
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not enough spring tension was the problem after i figured that out the cuts came out very nice. im going to keep using the strait bit for my main cuts and roughing and probably pick up a wing cutter to try out on finish cuts.
 
Use a 3 wing for roughing and keep the 6 wing for finish cuts, you will be pleased with the outcome.

In another thread the same point was made about cutters, buy quality if that is the focus of your cues, there is no substitute.
 
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