TAR 35 Sunday updates

[JCIN]

I think Allen Hopkins made an interesting argument in favor of alternating breaks. He made analogies to other sports. He said imagine a team in football scoring a TD and then receiving the next kick off or a team scores in basketball and gets the ball back (make it take it). I know these are distinctly different sports, but I think he does have a point to a degree

I have heard all the arguments for alternate break and understand them all. None of them outweigh the value of seeing a player get hot and string a big package IMO. Everyone has their own opinion.

The tennis thing I am talking about still allows someone to get loose and put a package together while assuring the other guy will his chance to do the same thing.

 

[PoolBum]

I knew it, Shane put Dennis in a coma.

 

[irock]

How about still playing winner breaks, but go by points to a predetermined number. You get one point for winning a game in which you broke, but you get two points for winning a game that your opponent broke. Most points will be picked up on your break, but if you are behind you could make up some ground quickly every time you score double on their break, plus you steal the break and pick up more games while keeping them in their chair..

 

[SakuJack]

One sticking point on the breaking situation is I am not positive how big an advantage the guy getting the first break rotation will have. Could be huge and might not mean much my gut says its could be pretty big. I havent thought a whole lot about it. Lots of details to work out but it could be interesting.

You could do it like the tennis tie break, where the first player only gets 1 serve, then they each get 2 until somebody wins. So in this kind of format you could have one player get the first 2 or 3 breaks, and from there on in they each get 5 breaks at a time, rotating until somebody wins the set - not sure how this works with your series of races to 5 idea, but you could race to 13 or so?

I'd be interesting in seeing that.

 

[CreeDo]

The idea of alternating the breaks more fairly (a la tennis) is not bad.
Winner breaks creates a vicious cycle where the huge advantage from the break
makes you more likely to win, so you get to break again, so you win again, and so on.

Disrupting that cycle does make things more fair, though these mini-sets are so short it means
the largest package would be 5 racks.

I don't like the idea of lots of shorter sets vs. one longer set. All that does is increase the role
of luck in the game. It's ok with races to 25 because that's long enough that there's time
to even out several rolls. But race to 5, one bad roll like getting kicked into the corner, and that's it.

It creates a situation where a player can be tied or even up on games, but losing on 'match points'.

 

[mikeiniowa]

Any word when this will be available on demand. Wish I could of caught this when this was live