Tax On Tournament Winnings

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Hopefully someone will know the definitive answer to this. I play in a decent sized league (over 150 teams) divided into two areas. There are 3 sessions per year and a tournament at the end of each session for each area for those teams who qualify from their division. The prize is $2,500 for first and $1,500 for second. Recently the league owner/operator has been informed by his accountant that he has to give the person who receives the check, generally the captain, a 1099 form for tax purposes. My contention is that if he writes a check to the individual players, generally 7 or 8 per team, that he will not require this form and the individuals would not be taxed. I cashed in the SBE and received a check for $590.00 and was told that amount was to keep the winnings below the $600.00 amount required to issue a 1099 form. Since the players in the league would receive less than $350 each, I believe they would fall under the same guidelines. Does anyone have experience with a similar situation and have references if you are in agreement with me?
Thanks for your replies.
Al
 
Hopefully the below link will answer your question somewhat.

http://www.usba.net/docs/TournamentProgram/OtherFiles/BilliardTaxPacket.pdf

Billiard Tax Packet


Disclaimer:

This tax information is prepared specifically for billiard players. I have attempted to make it very simple and easy to understand. For legal reasons, I have to make the following disclaimer: I am not an accountant. This information is being given as a basic guideline to understanding your responsibilities as a billiard player when it comes to filing tax returns with the government. You should not accept this information as being 100% accurate and should always consult a certified public accountant (CPA) before filing a tax return. Under no circumstances, including, but not limited to, negligence, shall the author or the United States Billiard Association Inc.(USBA) be liable for any special or consequential damages that result from the use of, or the inability to use, the information contained herein. In no event shall the author or the USBA be liable to the reader for any or all damages, losses, and causes of action (whether in contract, tort (including, but not limited to, negligence)).

Many billiard players do not realize that even if they earn income from playing billiards or giving lessons, etc, that they do not necessarily owe taxes to the government. It depends on how much income they have earned for the year and also how much money they have spent on billiards during the year.

If a player wins more than $600.00 from the USBA annually, the USBA must submit a statement of income (IRS Form 1099-MISC) to both the player and the IRS. The player must declare this income on their tax return for the year in which the payment was received. The IRS is very good at matching up 1099’s with taxpayers, and will expect you to either pay tax on the income or explain why you should not.

Many things are legitimate billiard expenses such as the following:

Table Time: The money you spend at billiard rooms to practice or play others

Purchase of Equipment: Cues, cue tips, ferrules, shafts, chalk, cue cases, labor paid to others to fix up your cue, etc,

Travel Expenses: Do you ever travel to a tournament? Airfare, hotels, rental cars, gasoline, etc, are all legitimate travel expenses. You are also allowed to deduct ½ of all the money you spend on food while you travel to a tournament. You should always keep receipts of everything (or a journal) if possible.

Clothing: Do you ever purchase clothes specifically for billiards or tournaments? They are all legitimate billiard expenses as well.

Dry Cleaning, Laundry: The cleaning of your “billiard clothes” is deductible as well.

Entry Fees: Any amount that you pay as an entry fee for a tournament is also deductible.

I am sure there are many more available deductions as well if you put your mind to it.
The typical billiard player will end up LOSING money at the end of the year. Therefore, they will not owe ANY money to the government. Legally, you are still required to file a Schedule C with your tax return if you had any income whatsoever for the year from billiards. Most players will end up having more billiard expenses than billiard income, and therefore will not owe any money whatsoever.

If you are a very good player and earn more billiard income than expenses, then you will have to pay taxes. The good news is that you will not pay taxes on the entire amount of billiard income that you make for the year; you will only pay taxes on the amount you REALLY made, which means the amount you make after you deduct all your billiard expenses.

So, in summary, here are some examples of what to do:

1) If you earn no money in billiard income for the year: you do NOT have to file a Schedule C with your tax return.

2) If you earn ANY money in billiard income for the year: you DO have to file a Schedule C with your tax return.

3) If your billiard expenses on Schedule C are MORE than your billiard income (NET LOSS), then you will NOT owe any taxes.

4) If your billiard income on Schedule C is MORE than your billiard expenses (NET PROFIT), then you WILL have to pay taxes, but not necessarily on the full amount of billiard income, only the difference between what you made and what your expenses were.

If your billiard expenses are MORE than your billiard income, then you have what is considered a NET LOSS for the year. You can deduct that NET LOSS from your other job income from your tax return. This means that you actually save money in taxes because you had a NET LOSS from billiards. This can only be done if the IRS considers your billiard activity to be a legitimate business. In order to be considered legitimate, your billiard activity must show a NET PROFIT for any 3 years out of a 5 year period. If it does, there is no problem. If it doesn’t, then the IRS can consider your billiard activity a HOBBY, and will not allow you to deduct your NET LOSS from your regular or other income on your tax return. You may also have to pay the IRS any taxes that you would have paid if you did not deduct your NET LOSS from your regular or other income. So be careful if you decide to deduct your NET LOSS from your regular or other income.

If you decide NOT to deduct your NET LOSS from your regular or other income, then there is no problem. You simply pay no additional taxes that year. If you make a NET PROFIT, then you pay the taxes you owe on the NET PROFIT for the year.

That’s basically all you need to know. Now that wasn’t too hard, was it? If you have any questions, please consult a CPA.
 
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My beer consumption is more than my yearly winnings but Revenue Canada won't let me deduct my bar tabs.
 
Here is the simple correct answer on checks under $600.

Chances are the pool league you play for is a division which is 100% funded by the members dues. Any and all payback not exceeding the total dues paid into the membership based organization are not taxable (total dues paid by all members not an individual). Basically, as long as the organization is not paying more out than it takes in then money "paid back" to its members is not taxable.

Almost all pool leagues classify as exempt Internal Revenue Code 501 (c)(7) organization

If they are not a 501 (c)(7) organization the taxes are on the operator and not the member as the member would be a an injured member of the association. ("injured member" is just like claiming "injured spouse" when it comes to the IRS)

Additionally, the best thing to do with any check that you are unsure if you have to pay taxes on is to not deposit it in your account. What you should do is go to the bank with your bills in had (CC, Gas, Electric, Phone, etc..) and pay the bills with the check. There is almost ZERO tracking on transactions like this with the IRS if you were audited as an individual.
 
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I am a CPA. If any individual is paid $600 or more a 1099 is required. It would make more sense to pay the players individually than just paying the Capt. the full amount, as a 1099 would not have to be issued. If you do receive a 1099 from a pool related event, then you could deduct reasonable, ordinary, and necessary expenses against that income on Schedule C. For me that would include beer, but unfortunatley that is only 50% deductable. I am glad I don't get 1099's from my gambling buddies!
 
Here is the simple correct answer.

Chances are the pool league you play for is a division which is 100% funded by the members dues. Any and all payback not exceeding the total dues paid into the membership based organization are not taxable (total dues paid by all members not an individual). Basically, as long as the organization is not paying more out than it takes in then money "paid back" to its members is not taxable.

Almost all pool leagues classify as exempt Internal Revenue Code 501 (c)(3) organization

If they are not a 501 (c)(3) organization the taxes are on the operator and not the member as the member would be a an injured member of the association. ("injured member" is just like claiming "injured spouse" when it comes to the IRS)

Additionally, the best thing to do with any check that you are unsure if you have to pay taxes on is to not deposit it in your account. What you should do is go to the bank with your bills in had (CC, Gas, Electric, Phone, etc..) and pay the bills with the check. There is almost ZERO tracking on transactions like this with the IRS if you were audited as an individual.

I do quite a bit of Non-Profit accounting, and I wouldn't think a pool league would be exempt under Code Sec. 501 (c)(3). My guess would be Sec. 501(c)(7) Social and Recreational Clubs.
 
Hopefully someone will know the definitive answer to this. I play in a decent sized league (over 150 teams) divided into two areas. There are 3 sessions per year and a tournament at the end of each session for each area for those teams who qualify from their division. The prize is $2,500 for first and $1,500 for second. Recently the league owner/operator has been informed by his accountant that he has to give the person who receives the check, generally the captain, a 1099 form for tax purposes. My contention is that if he writes a check to the individual players, generally 7 or 8 per team, that he will not require this form and the individuals would not be taxed. I cashed in the SBE and received a check for $590.00 and was told that amount was to keep the winnings below the $600.00 amount required to issue a 1099 form. Since the players in the league would receive less than $350 each, I believe they would fall under the same guidelines. Does anyone have experience with a similar situation and have references if you are in agreement with me?
Thanks for your replies.
Al

If you are relying on the pool forum for tax advice, you are in deep trouble. Contact a well qualified CPA.

Ray

edit - posted before reading that "9 on the snap" had replied.
 
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I do quite a bit of Non-Profit accounting, and I wouldn't think a pool league would be exempt under Code Sec. 501 (c)(3). My guess would be Sec. 501(c)(7) Social and Recreational Clubs.

Yes, my bad. 501(c)(7) is correct. Thanks for pointing that out.

I edited my post to correct this.
 
Ray is 100% absolutely correct on this. And yo further help you and our sport there is a great accountant who is also into pool. He has been a referee for the BCA and the IPT plus he operates his own non-profit pool league.

His name is Joe Destro
He owns Brunswick Tax Service and an H&R Block franchise
and the OPPA (Ohio Pool Players Association)
Brunswick, OH 44212
(330) 225-8200

I highly recommend him as he does all of my taxes and my friends taxes.
You could say he's "a friend of ours". Pool players that is.

If you are relying on the pool forum for tax advice, you are in deep trouble. Contact a well qualified CPA.

Ray

edit - posted before reading that "9 on the snap" had replied.
 
Thank you to all of you who have provided an answer to my question. I'll pass this information along to the league operator.
Al
 
There is no way that I'm paying any money to the government out of the money I make playing pool. Having to itemize my entire year of pool spending would take the fun outta pool for me. Plus, if they do bust me for making too much money playing pool, those are bragging rights where I come from! lol
 
There is no way that I'm paying any money to the government out of the money I make playing pool. Having to itemize my entire year of pool spending would take the fun outta pool for me. Plus, if they do bust me for making too much money playing pool, those are bragging rights where I come from! lol


What do Dippy do?
 
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Yeah ...

Don't you know the IRS plants undercover agents at Pool tournaments and writes down the names of anyone winning $600 or more..... LOL
 
I was under the impression if you have a net loss on a Schedule C, you can only deduct it if that is a JOB. Or money making venture. If you continually lose money at pool year after year after expenses it will be listed as a HOBBY and then is not eligible for deductions. In this case you may have to revise past income tax statements to adjust for deducting HOBBY expenses and not JOB expenses.

I think there is a worksheet on the IRS website about determining whether something is a JOB or HOBBY.

But the IRS should know by now there is no money in POOL so I doubt it should be an issue.
 
Well if they tax, I can write off my losses and I'm sure I could get back more than I've won.
Really I wouldn't go to tourney's anymore, I'd just stick to locking up on the tables.
 
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There is no way that I'm paying any money to the government out of the money I make playing pool. Having to itemize my entire year of pool spending would take the fun outta pool for me. Plus, if they do bust me for making too much money playing pool, those are bragging rights where I come from! lol

I like your username. :grin-square:
 
If you are relying on the pool forum for tax advice, you are in deep trouble. Contact a well qualified CPA.

Ray

edit - posted before reading that "9 on the snap" had replied.

I am a well qualified CPA (17 years) , and I do about 1,000 tax returns a year. You would be supprised at the quality of the tax advice you can get on a pool forum. Just Sayin' :wink:
 
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