Hopefully Jay Heifert (hope I spelled that right) will chime in, because I seem to recall that he quoted either Parica or Reyes as saying nobody went to Taiwan and walked away with the cash. That was a few years ago, and they've gotten even better. I've watched some of their challenge matches, and its 3 sets- one of 8ball, one 9, and one straight pool. They can play just about all the games.