The Ballad of John and Lou, Part One
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I read it as a joke post.
Shinobi,
John Barton isn't dumb. He would like this issue to fade away, without any scrutiny.
BTW, there are emails floating around from JB to Jack Justis regarding the slimy move, so there is a document of this.
Eric
And so says someone who thinks "NY" is "NYC." Big difference between the two, pal. NYC may have the strictest firearms restrictions in the country, but that doesn't speak for the rest of NY State (nor to those of us vehemently against the S.A.F.E. act).
You won't find very many "upstaters" wanting to get into peoples' faces up here. We all carry.Or, we pick you off from a distance Adirondacks-style.
-Sean
You people do know they were in NJ right???
I knew...but had forgotten
:sorry:. I felt really stupid when I realized it after a while.Maniac (feels stupid a lot...naturally!!!)
Yes, that was described in subsequent post #160. You replied a little too soon, and should've continued reading.
100% correct
Wow you hit the nail on the head with that one. I know the whole story and it should be brought up more often about Bartons actions. Scumbag or douche moves? What else would you expect. How about some crop dusting and take a ride in the wind.
It all smells bad.
None of the say 10 groupies that Barton has never seen the wrong in him but are quick to make comments about other people to get off the subjects of his actions.
I just saw a video on another Forum where it is said Barton explains himself and teaches everyone a few things.
I will not post the link but it is ok for Barton and others to post links and conversations on Azbiliards that happen elsewhere. If anyone cant find the link to the video than send me a pm and I will forward it to you privately.
Damn Lou it didn't seem that hard for you to stall in your match. You didn't have to go out for beer and chicken wings to celebrate. Well at least not the chicken wing part anyways. Great heist congrats. Your friends were correct about everything and also the Crawfishing was a world record and will never be broken EVER.....
There is NO doubt about the coaching by Dennis Spears. Amazing he could see the shots on the monitors and then cover his mouth to tell Barton what to shoot. Why would Dennis Spears cover his mouth when he talked to Barton. Why would Dennis be hiding behing a column.Can anyone explain this? It might take some courage to play for 10k but not really when you have a complete game plan from start to finish which is pulling every move and angle known possible.
I played Dennis Spears last year and didn't even know who he was.
A very skilled player for sure. The best shark moves ever. He def knows all the back street moves. I did beat him in the tournament but it took a while from his 9 bathroom breaks and about 6 of them during my turn at the table.
I now see how he beat Strickland a couple months before I played him. He and Barton surely made a deal and he was wanting a bonus payout if Barton won but they both must move along now and continue to crawfish in all future matches.
Great write up Lou
Wow you hit the nail on the head with that one. I know the whole story and it should be brought up more often about Bartons actions. Scumbag or douche moves? What else would you expect. How about some crop dusting and take a ride in the wind.
It all smells bad.
None of the say 10 groupies that Barton has never seen the wrong in him but are quick to make comments about other people to get off the subjects of his actions.
I just saw a video on another Forum where it is said Barton explains himself and teaches everyone a few things.
I will not post the link but it is ok for Barton and others to post links and conversations on Azbiliards that happen elsewhere. If anyone cant find the link to the video than send me a pm and I will forward it to you privately.
Damn Lou it didn't seem that hard for you to stall in your match. You didn't have to go out for beer and chicken wings to celebrate. Well at least not the chicken wing part anyways. Great heist congrats. Your friends were correct about everything and also the Crawfishing was a world record and will never be broken EVER.....
There is NO doubt about the coaching by Dennis Spears. Amazing he could see the shots on the monitors and then cover his mouth to tell Barton what to shoot. Why would Dennis Spears cover his mouth when he talked to Barton. Why would Dennis be hiding behing a column.Can anyone explain this? It might take some courage to play for 10k but not really when you have a complete game plan from start to finish which is pulling every move and angle known possible.
I played Dennis Spears last year and didn't even know who he was.
A very skilled player for sure. The best shark moves ever. He def knows all the back street moves. I did beat him in the tournament but it took a while from his 9 bathroom breaks and about 6 of them during my turn at the table.
I now see how he beat Strickland a couple months before I played him. He and Barton surely made a deal and he was wanting a bonus payout if Barton won but they both must move along now and continue to crawfish in all future matches.
Great write up Lou
dom_poppa
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Thanks for sharing.
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Actually I don't care. Unlike you I stand up and take ownership of whatever I do. Also unlike you I don't lie about events.
But you are bringing up stuff that has zero bearing on the current conversation and out of context to boot.
Let's talk more about you threatening me with a pool ball in your hand. For what? Because I asked you to play some pool?
What you did not know Eric is that there were many there who were more than ready to assist me had you gone ahead with your assault. Apparently you are equally disliked by many other people.
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In other words, you admit you pulled that slimy, lowlife move, reporting Jack Justis to the local Town regualtors in an attempt to hurt his business? Nice one, John.
BTW, this isn't a hearsay allegation from me, I'll post the actual email later.
I threatened you because you, John Barton decided to initiate crap after I was leaving you be. If it was only "asking for a game" that would be different, but you knew full well that we have a lot of bad blood between us. So, 45 minutes before your match, you decide to "ask for a game" with me. 45 minutes before your match... Thing is, I promptly declined saying "John, you know we cant stand each other so why do I want to play you? For that matter, why are you even talking to me?!".
Form there, you continue to pepper me with snide comments and taunts, until I decided that I felt like confronting you.
BTW, you claim you are Mr. White Knight against bullying, but you know what? You use "poolroom woofin" as your excuse to be the bully that you don't have the manhood to be, only you hide it under the guise of "poolroom woofing".
John, here is another gem of advice that you haven't learned yet; There Is A Fine Line Between Woofin And Talkin Sh1t.
As far as you other spindoctor crap about your ficticious group of ppl that were standing by to jump me, if I pummeled you, you are hallucinating. There were two guys that were there to help Ed to look after the room, but thats it. They weren't there cuz they had your back and "hate" me. There is no one in Sandcastle that "hates me". Sorry, John. Everything else is just the half truths and spin of the used car salesman we call John Barton.
Lastly, John Kaplan-Collins-Barton-(whatever your new last name is), for some reason, your are sharp in some areas but a butterknife in others. I gave you a wide berth starting with your first post in the Lou vs You challenge. I ignored your occasional reference to me, to draw me in. I made not one post. I ignored you for hours, taht day, at Sandcastle. I didnt look your way, didnt say anything to you. For some reason, you couldn't help yourself. Your obsession took over and you had to instigate something. The rest is history.
Learn from this, John Barton. Or don't.
Eric
EMAIL FROM JOHN BARTON TO JACK JUSTIS:
From: john@sterling-gaming.com
To: jjustis4@aol.com
Sent: 7/27/2010 12:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Zoning
Are you sure you are zoned to be running a manufacturing and retail business from your house? You may want to check with the city on that.
According to my correspondence with the nice folks at the city hall in Coconut Creek they don't allow manufacturing businesses of any kind to be run out of residential homes.
I suppose I need to check Pompano Beach to see if I am allowed to operate a leather goods production business from my home.
I'd get up to speed on your permits if I were you before the city zoning inspectors show up at your door.
Now, did you say on TAR that you make 150 cases a year? That translates into how much taxable income?
Next time you feel like messing with someone's business you really ought to think it through.
I offered you the peaceful out and you declined it.
I will consider not pursuing my thoughts about moving to Pompano Beach/Coconut Creek to open a leather goods business. Nor will I inquire with the IRS what my tax bracket for profits made on around $100,000 worth of sales might be.
It would be nice to see you consider a public apology on all points while I am mulling over these other topics. I am pretty busy so I might just forget about the Coconut Creek project altogether. Just waiting on a call from the zoning department now to discuss where my leather goods business should be located and which permits I need.
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Thanks, Bobby.
Early in the match I saw John's wife go running out of the arena (it's probably on the tape somewhere). I mean she tears around the outside seating like a house is on fire. I was told later that she saw Dennis come into the pool hall and wanted to get him over to John's corner as soon as possible.
Oh well. We slept it.
Lou Figueroa
My only comment is this: I saw and heard the lead up to the confrontation from just a couple of tables away and John was completely and totally responsible. He went out of his way to goad Eric and would not shut up. It was almost like he wanted to start something and get hurt.
Lou Figueroa
I won't back down from that "person" ever. Eric would have to kill me to insure I didn't come back.
I am only responsible for talking to him. You can stop the utter bullshit about me being responsible for Eric choosing to walk over to me with a pool ball and "double dog daring" me to challenge him again.
Say what you want but no one twisted his arm to threaten violence.
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You had better leave my wife out of it. I mean it. I am not playing Lou. This is the second time you have chosen to implicate my wife.
I suggest you let it go.
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Banks
Banned
Whatcha gonna do? Offer up a wager? You were mentioning your wife the whole lead-up to this and how she was going to spend the money.
Hey, remember this?
"Actually you have claimed to be a better player than those you insult. I have also played the game for decades and played with, spoken with, shared vacations with, had lessons from, sponsored, gambled against, loaned money to, borrowed money from and otherwise lived life with professional players for the past 20 years. Your experience does not trump mine yet you persist even in the above paragraph in thinking that it does."
(I tossed it in for free.) You couldn't make up a better story.
Or this? Yeah, that's some good stuff right there.
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As much as the posts from John and Lou entertain people, they tend to turn my stomach. I read them like someone looks at a train wreck.
I don't know what is worse. The posts by these two or the posts by Rhea.
I don't know ANY of the THREE, but, to ME, it seems like ALL of them have issues that need to be dealt with.
John and Lou have some sort of problem where they can't let anyone have the LAST WORD. THEY (John and Lou) will NEVER stop posting crap about each other...I don't care if they play 100 matches or who wins...they will NEVER STOP.
I don't know what is worse. The posts by these two or the posts by Rhea.
I don't know ANY of the THREE, but, to ME, it seems like ALL of them have issues that need to be dealt with.
John and Lou have some sort of problem where they can't let anyone have the LAST WORD. THEY (John and Lou) will NEVER stop posting crap about each other...I don't care if they play 100 matches or who wins...they will NEVER STOP.
The problem is that no one in their right mind, right before playing for 10k, is going to bark at someone else to play (for a lesser amount). The main focus should have been on the big upcoming match.
You don't like Eric, and you know he doesn't like you. So barking at him before your match with Lou was not smart, and you should have known it wasn't going to end well.
I am perfectly willing to be nice and cordial. However when Lou starts accusing my wife of deliberately sharking him then that's another line too far.
I suppose I can only imagine he is being coached by his banned backer on what to write.
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dom_poppa
Banned
Shouldn't you be concentrating more on your business? You said after you loss that you were going to stop being so obsessed about 1pocket and that you were going to focus more on your business.
Judging how you post on AZ, you are not concentrating on your business. Rather than sit here and argue about something, that people saw you did with their very own eyes, you should be posting on the for sale section and contribute to the case gallery forum.
Let this one die out just like that Voturi rant.
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