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classiccues said:
Yes Joe, I understand that people will not believe what they do not see. It's hard to imagine what China is like when all people know of China is from news bites.
I really hate it when this always becomes such an issue about human rights and wages and conditions when the same people who condemn China won't fix worse problems in the USA.
The cost of living is lower here so are the wages it's that simple. In the last year wages have risen about 30% and they will continue to rise until this economy is as consumptive or more so than the USA.
There are probably more McDonalds in China per square mile in the big cities than most places in the USA. The drink of choice at banquets and dinners is Coca Cola and Sprite, with Minute Maid Orange "Juice" made by Coke coming in a close second. Buick is popular car as are Chrysler products. KFC, Wendys, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut are all established places to eat.
The true facts of the matter are that America and China are becoming one country and in 100 years there will be no difference.
Home Depot is opening stores here, Wal Mart is the largest department store chain here.
The point I was making is that it's not all as it seems on the basis of some news stories. Just because there are legitimate stories of horrid conditions in some Chinese factories does not mean that all of them are like that. When is the last time you saw a story about the thousands of factories with excellent conditions and excellent benefits in China? Hardly ever because that's not what sells papers. We all know that.
Same thing in the USA, the stories that make the news and stay there are the controversial ones. Which is fine because we should be alerted to what is wrong and be working to correct it.
But we should also be willing to support and celebrate what is being done right.
What people ultimately choose to believe should be based not on what I say but their own due diligence.
My point was that if you want to compare apples to apples then here it is - If one of my staff (the factory staff) is sick they go to the doctor with a chip card and they are treated immediately without hassle about the proper insurance, whether this or that drug or treatment is covered, and so on. They can go to any hospital and any doctor in the city - or anywhere in the country for that matter. This is not an option for millions of Americans who have insurance but are mired in a confusingly complex set of rules about when and how they are covered.
I know because I spent $60 a pill for my wife to buy her the only pill that worked for the migraines she had after her accident. Of course the medicine was "not covered" by insurance. Over a year I spent around $4000 or so on those pills. And at the time I was paying very high premiums to have the best available insurance. ($800/month for 2 people Joe, in 2001) Anyway, this all only furthers the divide rather than heals it.
We live in an age where information is changing our lives. Many will not embrace this unprecedented access to information, preferring instead to cling to old ideas, many will use parts of the information to reinforce their beliefs, and others will look at both sides and see the complexity of our world as a dynamic mixture of human endeavor.
It's funny that something so simple as a cue case can spark such debate. But it's also sad that such divisiveness still exists.
Anyway, for my part I will do what I can by making good products for those that want good products. For those that don't want what I make because of where it's made there are excellent alternatives listed on my website www.jbcases.com
JB Cases said:
John, please elaborate a bit about what you mean by this. This is an intriguing statement that I'm sure won't sit well with many Americans.
I would like to place an order for a 1x2 in black lizard print with "Schick" printed on the top that will hold a 32" butt and shaft. Let me know how much.
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dave sutton
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half fast bankr said:
LOL... GOOD POINT
GreenPoolChalk said:I have read about all of the posts in this thread, and it appears that someone in China wants to make a better Thomas, Fellini, Engles, Centennial type Cue case, and charge more for the imported clone than the only currently made one at a time by Ron Thomas in the USA.
No I am not wrapping the American Flag around Mr. Thomas but I do own one of his Cue Cases, and it bears his signature inside the top lid as proof of it being a Ron Thomas Case.
I do not understand why a Chinese Clone should cost what the real thing cost. But if I was to put my Thomas up for sale it would be gone fast as it is one of his Italian Signature Series leather cases with the friction fit top. The design needs no improvement in my opinion.
You don?t have to send it to the other end of the world to get fixed maybe.
If you call Ron directly you will get you Case built the way you want it, 1 x 2, 2 x 4, with or without pockets, pocket of configuration you want, suit case handle, or not, carry strap if want it. Like Burger King your way, your options, and made in the USA one at a time.
Ron even has one dealer I would recommend doing business with Dick Abbott at Billiards Cue dot com.
If you call GTF you can also have the case made your way. Not only can you have all the option you listed you can also have the case tooled, inlaid, or otherwise customized to your heart's content.
If the GTF case should have a problem then it will be sent back to Chicago, Illinois, USA to be taken care of. If it's a latch problem then one need not send the case in, a latch will be sent out and is easily replaced in a matter of minutes.
IndyQShop is also a Ron Thomas dealer and has been a HUGE Thomas supporter for many years. the website is www.indyqshop.com I think that this has been the defacto Ron Thomas website for many years. At least this is the first place I go to when it comes to Thomas Cases.
This case I built is not a "clone" - it is the evolution of the style that was created by Bob Hemphil. Mr Thomas appropriated the style from Mike Roberts of It's George through his brief tenure working with Mike and has done a great job of building a good version of this style of case. GTF and Thomas cases will coexist in peace and people who own them will enjoy them.
I look forward to many new ideas on the drawing board with this style. Experiments yet to be tried in construction and decoration.
Thank you all for your comments. All criticism is constructive in some way.
Happy new year to all, I hope this year brings everyone the peace and prosperity they seek.
There is no way the U.S. and China are going to be one country. The U.S. is not going to exist in it present form in a 100 years because of things like NAFTA. They are building the I-35 super coridor right now. There are no fewer than 125 exporitory commisions right now in our goverment looking to combine the US, Canada and Mexico. China is just another concern among many. By the way does anybody remember the Japanese invasion of manufatured goods. Everybody said the same thing about that as they are about China. I just wonder how many people on this thread bad mouthing John's case own a Japanese car. Let me guess though, most of the cars they sell here are built here or its because they already drove the American worker out of the market.
WE have caused this influx of China made goods. If nobody bought it they would not make it. Everybody wants to save a buck. When they go to Walmart the last thing on there mind are the sweat shops in China.
John best of luck selling your cases. You are going to need it with this crowd.
WE have caused this influx of China made goods. If nobody bought it they would not make it. Everybody wants to save a buck. When they go to Walmart the last thing on there mind are the sweat shops in China.
John best of luck selling your cases. You are going to need it with this crowd.
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dave sutton
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id like to add i dont think a case maker in the world could put ron thomas out of buisness. he is top notch
this shouldnt be a issue. everyone owns products made overseas.
if the product is nice it shouldnt matter where its made
get on the guy that buys/makes the 30,000$ car not the 200$ case
30,000$ can buy alot of cases
its pool for christs sake its suppose to be enjoyable!!!
this shouldnt be a issue. everyone owns products made overseas.
if the product is nice it shouldnt matter where its made
get on the guy that buys/makes the 30,000$ car not the 200$ case
30,000$ can buy alot of cases
its pool for christs sake its suppose to be enjoyable!!!
cueaddicts said:John, please elaborate a bit about what you mean by this. This is an intriguing statement that I'm sure won't sit well with many Americans.
I mean that China is becoming more like America each day. In one hundred years there will be so little difference that it won't matter.
The Chinese are gobbling up American lifestyles, adopting Western patterns of living and working.
They, like everyone else want to "be American". In one hundred years the world government will be be completely run by multinational powerhouse corporations that are all intertwined amongst themselves.
In 20 years you won't see much difference between a Chinese suburb and an American one. You will have your Wal Mart, your Home Depot, your Pizza Hut and your Jeep to go to all those places.
The only thing left to remind you that you are in China will be the touristy temples.
That's what I meant.
nasc said:
My friend, if you were here you would see more capitalism in it's purest form than you could imagine.
That's why I list the alternatives. I believe in the abundance economy that says that there is enough business for everyone. Especially in an industry like ours that only has room to grow.
China is about as communist as Boise, Idaho is. That experiment is long fading.
