the best Gina Copy you ever seen

NYC cue dude said:
i stand corrected then. When I spoke to ernie, he told me they started at 10k, so with that in mind, I spec'd my prices from that. the cue grassley was selling,I figured there was a 20% markup, if that, Which still put that cue atleast at 10k. Which is more than double the cost of the cue without the veneers.

I have an email into pccues, and waiting to see how much his cue with those veneers are, as I was told that the cue is considerably less than 10k, which i find hard to believe.

With all that said, I never saw it necessary to make this personal, as you did, when you went on to say I know "nothing" about this.

I own over 100k in cues, and my collection includes some of the rarest most collectible cues ever built. I am pretty confident in my collecting abilities, and in the end, thats all that really matters.

rg
you are right about your red veneer cue and my silver cue was 10,000 just a little over with shipping an the silver rasputin is about 8000.00 so you are both correct. ernies cues with silver are awesome! and always worth more on the secondary market! ernie is one of the best if not the best! our country has to offer,and it is not out of line to sell his cues in the $50,000 and i have sold them close to that! and as for arthur cues he is the best his country has to offer bar none!and his player cues sell at about 2500.00 eruo. and his works of art command much more !!!and even in the states! the pharo cue has a sale pending at 39,000 . ihope i did not speak to soon but best wishes to all
 
NYC cue dude said:
you went on to say I know "nothing" about this.

rg


i never said that.... you must have read my post wrong or something. and i didn't make it personal, i just said your figures were wrong. no worries mate :)
 
cornerstone said:
ribdoner said:
a amazing work of art!

In 1989 an obscure cue pimp from MEMPHIS was talking to an equally obscure cue maker from ALASKA.

The cue pimp had flipped a couple of Alaskan makers cues and, in spite of himself, made a dollar or three. The cue maker told the pimp he was tapioca, couldn't afford brakes for his car or tampon's for his lady---blah, blah. The maker indicated he had a couple of very fancy cues almost complete which would be ready in a couple of weeks. He would finish them on a top priority basis if the pimp could send him a downstroke of 15hun. The pimp was flush so he sent the $.

Fast forward a few months....The pimp didn't get the cues as promised and is on the phone with the maker. During the course of the conversation he uses the term "FUNCTIONAL ART" as it relates to the makers work with the goal of making him warm and fuzzy and perhaps getting him off of his a$$.

The Alaskan cue maker was a prodigy of a prominant Texas cue maker and, in all probability, dropped the FUNCTIONAL ART line on him. Soon the Texas maker was building FUNCTIONAL ART, MASTERPIECES and even GALLERY cues!
The ART craze was contagious because other makers from, but not limited to,Texas, Tennessee and Wisconsin were creating MASTERPIECES.It must be a strong , virulant strain because it has now surfaced in EUROPE.

Hmmm...should the obscure cue pimp get jelly?:confused:
 
ribdoner said:
cornerstone said:
In 1989 an obscure cue pimp from MEMPHIS was talking to an equally obscure cue maker from ALASKA.

The cue pimp had flipped a couple of Alaskan makers cues and, in spite of himself, made a dollar or three. The cue maker told the pimp he was tapioca, couldn't afford brakes for his car or tampon's for his lady---blah, blah. The maker indicated he had a couple of very fancy cues almost complete which would be ready in a couple of weeks. He would finish them on a top priority basis if the pimp could send him a downstroke of 15hun. The pimp was flush so he sent the $.

Fast forward a few months....The pimp didn't get the cues as promised and is on the phone with the maker. During the course of the conversation he uses the term "FUNCTIONAL ART" as it relates to the makers work with the goal of making him warm and fuzzy and perhaps getting him off of his a$$.

The Alaskan cue maker was a prodigy of a prominant Texas cue maker and, in all probability, dropped the FUNCTIONAL ART line on him. Soon the Texas maker was building FUNCTIONAL ART, MASTERPIECES and even GALLERY cues!
The ART craze was contagious because other makers from, but not limited to,Texas, Tennessee and Wisconsin were creating MASTERPIECES.It must be a strong , virulant strain because it has now surfaced in EUROPE.

Hmmm...should the obscure cue pimp get jelly?:confused:
These cuemakers are true artist of a round palet and they are the only venue that is being held down ! if these were guns or knifes or paintings they would command 4xs the money that they are getting now! they deserve to get paid for the work that they spend 100s of hours away from ther familys and busting there knuckles!Its time for a change and it will be better for the collector and the maker and i hope to see more works of art made by these wonderful cumakers across the globe
 
my opinion

the simple facts are some can afford this new influx of "art" cues and some can't. my observation is for the most part the ones who ? them don't understand them and probably can't afford them either even though some would love to be able to. there is a whole 'nother market out there for these cues and it's tapped into the same that seek out other high end indulgences such as mercedes, versace, rolex.....ect. they're for the ones who able to appreciate the finer things (cognoscenti) and of course again afford them. from my experience these type cues are very well built and of course great looking and that's their focus even though they are built for playability also. it's art in billiard form. the price is high but the work involved is tremendous and warrants the cost as much as anything else high end. there isn't many who create this type work that don't sell their pieces so there is a definite market. i say enjoy their work. who knows maybe someday you might be able to own a piece and i think that would be special.
 
skins said:
the simple facts are some can afford this new influx of "art" cues and some can't. my observation is for the most part the ones who ? them don't understand them and probably can't afford them either even though some would love to be able to. there is a whole 'nother market out there for these cues and it's tapped into the same that seek out other high end indulgences such as mercedes, versace, rolex.....ect. they're for the ones who able to appreciate the finer things (cognoscenti) and of course again afford them. from my experience these type cues are very well built and of course great looking and that's their focus even though they are built for playability also. it's art in billiard form. the price is high but the work involved is tremendous and warrants the cost as much as anything else high end. there isn't many who create this type work that don't sell their pieces so there is a definite market. i say enjoy their work. who knows maybe someday you might be able to own a piece and i think that would be special.
Hey Skins,

I like the way you said your comments. Good thoughts, well put.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Will
 
Ladies and Gentlemen

I have never in my life seen so many argue over one HIGHLY PRICED and INEFFECTIVE cue. If you don't like something, don't look at it, or stay away. The greatest thing that this country has is too many opionions and the freedom to express it. Now it's my turn, shut up and let the man try and sell the cue. If you don't want it, move on to the next one. If you can't afford it, find another one. And if you like it, get a 2nd mortgage, and buy it. It's really simple.
Oh yeah, before I forget about it. If for a second, you think that Germany produces some of the best stuff in the world? Obviously they have yet to create the perfect Army because we just keep kicking their ass and taking there women.

HAPPY HANNUKA
 
Brandon,

Your Gina is ...awesome...:D :D

Edit: You are nuts to play with that cue everyday, but way to go man!!!!
 

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nipponbilliards said:
Brandon,

Your Gina is ...awesome...:D :D


hey.. i have two friends that have vinyl printers just like that one...

lol.. they both make about 3 to 4 grand each profit a month on ebay selling decals....

(had to edit this post.. when i re-read it, didnt quite make sense to me and i wrote it!lol..)


chris
 
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> Brandon,is that Gina your daily player? If so,HELL YEAH! If not,I couldn't blame you. Tommy D.
 
Cosmo,

I agree with you. There's talk that these are good copies of Ernie's cues but just looking at the points in the pictures will tell you that these cues weren't made by Ernie. And $8000 - for a copy???????????
 
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