Aaron_S said:
Joey, I would be very interested to know what you perceive as being the weakest parts of your 9-ball game. I would expect someone who plays very good one-pocket, as you apparently do, to run 9-ball racks with ease when presented with an open shot, and to also have a slight edge over non-one-holers with regard to overall strategy. I'm not a terrific one-pocket or 9-ball player, but I do know that playing one-pocket has undoubtedly spurred improvement in these aspects of my 9-ball game.
On the other hand, I can also see where a very good one-pocket player would expect his/her prowess at that, much more difficult, game to automatically translate to a "rack-stringing" level of play at 9-ball. One potential difficulty, and I think the main one, with this expectation, however, is the unfortunate premium that 9-ball puts on the break shot, and even a great 1p player is not going to regularly string 9-ball racks if they are hindered by an ineffective break shot.
So, again, I would be interested to know what part(s) of your 9-ball game aren't working. It may be something you can fix without too much effort.
Good luck,
Aaron
WOW!
I didn't expect this many responses and they are all appreciated. Aaron, to answer your question with brevity, it is the bottom line: I do not win as many matches playing nine ball against my peers as I do against my peers playing one pocket. I miss too many runouts in nine ball. I fail to complete the runouts that are practical. For me like many people who take up one pocket, my safety play in nine ball is better than most. Even my banking is better than most. So I guess it is really my ability to consistently pocket balls consecutively that is my main weakness. In one pocket hanging an object ball in the hole can be a god-send where in nine ball it is a curse.
I've had some lessons about patterns in nine ball and feel fairly confident about patterns so I don't think I suffer greatly in that area. Primarily, it is the inconsistency of running multiple racks in 9 ball that I suffer from. I'm not sure but I believe that it is a multi-facted problem.
One of the problems is of course as others have mentioned, is that in nine ball hanging up the object ball gets you busted whereas in one pocket it simply frustrates the hell out of your opponent as he doesn't always know if the hanging up of the ball was intentional or lucky but if the hanging object ball cannot be seen by the cue ball it doesn't really make any difference.
Another problems is simply the speed of stroke that is necessary in 9 ball. You often have to move the cue ball longer distances than in one pocket and for the most part it is a difference in speed of stroke. As others mentioned, the object ball speed can often be quite different as you cannot afford to have an object ball fail to fall into the pocket. With the tight Diamond tables faster speed of object ball presents a problem in 9 ball.
My mind was wondering just now as I was writing this post and I was thinking about the DCC 9 ball tournament which just finished. In the tournament, does anyone know for sure what the most number of racks that were run consecutively?
I briefly spoke to Jeanette Lee's original trainer, a fomer Olympic gymnast if I am not mistaken and he offered that 9 ball while a simple game, it was a very athletic game and required ample athletic skills. I wish that I had more time to discuss the subject with him. Maybe next time.
In the meantime, I will continue to read your posts to form a more informed opinion about my own problems in nine ball.
Jaden, I will make an exception for you since I made the committment to play some one pocket with you previous to my latest decision to put one pocket on the shelf, temporarily. I look forward to meeting you and hitting some balls with you. Maybe you can help me with my nine ball game.
Thanks and please keep the suggestions coming.
JoeyA