Bobby Jones made a set of clubs all the same length over 70-80 years ago. He tinkered with the same club lenth concept for awhile. What the young golfer is doing is nothing that hasn't been tinkered with in the past. Just not alot in the last 15 to 20 years. Is all.
The most fascinating golfer at the Masters using a controversial swing
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We've been down this road before, but now your saying something that makes no sense at all..Spin is spin, and whatever you use will effect the way the ball comes off the rail!..Please give me some credit for being a pretty fair player myself..(witnesses abound
) Any decent player can use inside (aka, reverse spin), but put up a poll, and ask the top 50 players which english they least prefer to use! You won't like the results...But I'm glad it works for you, and CJ! :thumbup:
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We've been down this road before, but now your saying something that makes no sense at all..Spin is spin, and whatever you use will effect the way the ball comes off the rail!..Please give me some credit for being a pretty fair player myself..(witnesses abound
If a cue ball struck dead center picks up natural spin from coming off an object ball with an angle, does not a cue ball spinning in an opposite direction of the natural spin when it hits the object ball affect it when it hits a rail?
Yes or no will suffice.
You have yet to ask, or assert an opinion, that can be answered with a simple yes or no! sorry :sorry:
G'night!
I told you my opinion in the post you refuted.
All you need is a yes or no to answer a simple question.
I knew that (I think) !...I meant to say Rory +1..thanks for the correction!..But I will also take Day + 5!.. I'll pull for your guy Danny too. :thumbup: I just think Spieth is running on empty!
PS..When you reach 'the golden years', its hard to say what you mean first time!
(I wonder how old the "Eye Man" is? 
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While the Natural Golf Swing and Single Axis teachers are trying to claim that DeChambeau swings like Moe Norman, his swing is certainly not like Moe Norman's.
Besides having his hands higher at address than virtually every pro out there, DeChambeau's swing is fairly standard otherwise.
He stays on plane very well and has minimal hand action. This tightens his dispersion pattern significantly.
Woody Austin had a similar set-up while he was playing outstanding golf on the PGA Tour back in the 90's and just after the turn of the century.
What DeChambeau is doing though, is nothing new.
He also has his mental game in very good order, which is the biggest part of the battle once you become a world class ball striker.
DeChambeau is a student of The Golfing Machine method of teaching. Almost every single golfer who has been a serious student of TGM, has had to deal with the pitfalls of being too technical with their thinking while playing. This has shortened a lot of their careers.
Players such as Bobby Clampett and Mac O'Grady (both of them were TGM students) were brilliant for a space of years but had a lot of trouble with overthinking their swings.
Besides having his hands higher at address than virtually every pro out there, DeChambeau's swing is fairly standard otherwise.
He stays on plane very well and has minimal hand action. This tightens his dispersion pattern significantly.
Woody Austin had a similar set-up while he was playing outstanding golf on the PGA Tour back in the 90's and just after the turn of the century.
What DeChambeau is doing though, is nothing new.
He also has his mental game in very good order, which is the biggest part of the battle once you become a world class ball striker.
DeChambeau is a student of The Golfing Machine method of teaching. Almost every single golfer who has been a serious student of TGM, has had to deal with the pitfalls of being too technical with their thinking while playing. This has shortened a lot of their careers.
Players such as Bobby Clampett and Mac O'Grady (both of them were TGM students) were brilliant for a space of years but had a lot of trouble with overthinking their swings.
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There is no yes or no because it depends on a couple factors speed and English if you take a stripe ball and use it as a cue ball you will find on any shots less than lets say 30 degrees a center high hit the cue rolls almost dead straight on extreme cuts there's a slight impart of spin now shoot with inside you will clearly see the ball continue to spin inside after contact like wise with outside
So depending on where you want the cue ball determins what spin you want or natural angle
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The amount of spin is you need to put on the cue ball is determined by the angle you choose to leave yourself in your positioning.
I play my angles so that I can play a "dead" cue ball around the table. The cue ball looks like it is floating or sliding most do the time.
I'm sorry Mr. Eye, but that is the most confusing 'non answer' I have ever heard!..All good players try to create the optimum angle, which will give them the best option to continue their run!..If you can do this by "dead balling" all over the place, you would make Efren look like the Easter bunny, instead of a magician!..Why would you even need to mess with TOI?..Are you really that good?
I'm sorry Mr. Eye, but that is the most confusing 'non answer' I have ever heard!..All good players try to create the optimum angle, which will give them the best option to continue their run!..If you can do this by "dead balling" all over the place, you would make Efren look like the Easter bunny, instead of a magician!..Why would you even need to mess with TOI?..Are you really that good?
Have another drink, Dick.
I'm not here to play word games.
If you can't understand what I'm talking about, go watch golf.
I'm well aware of the method of play
Beat me to it ... Moe was known for this type of golf swing ever since I was a young golfer. I think they idea was to limit the hinge points in the swing that can cause complexity in timing.
Maybe pool equivalent is snooker stroke with set elbow and very little moving parts (vs. free flowing Filipino strokes with elbow drop).
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Lest we forget, there was yet another notable revolutionary thinker with a radical golf swing; Moe Howard. :grin-square:
here's the proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuJcCukvXqs
best,
brian kc
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Hello All - First post, been lurking for a few weeks as I get back into shooting pool after a layoff for over 50 years.
Regarding the original topic (golf), I played on the Senior PGA Tour (now Champions Tour) from 1993 thru 1998.
Just like most sports, there are many ways to get it done.
While The Golfing Machine was a seminal work for many years on the physics and geometry of the swing, recent "3-D" analysis has shown that some of his ideas were not valid. And yes I have read and studied the book.
Regarding the one comment that if BD had made par on the last hole (finished at -3) he would have been paired with Jordan S - that is incorrect. As Rory finished earlier than BD, Rory would still have been paired today with Jordan.
The Masters this weekend should provide some exciting golf with windy conditions and cool weather.
Been back playing pool for about a month now as golf is on hold while I await right hip replacement surgery. Used to play a lot in high school (late 50"s) and was pretty decent. Aim and stroke are a little off and miss way to many easy shots. Position play is pretty good. Did purchase a new McDermott cue.
Thanks for reading the long post - take care - Bruce
Regarding the original topic (golf), I played on the Senior PGA Tour (now Champions Tour) from 1993 thru 1998.
Just like most sports, there are many ways to get it done.
While The Golfing Machine was a seminal work for many years on the physics and geometry of the swing, recent "3-D" analysis has shown that some of his ideas were not valid. And yes I have read and studied the book.
Regarding the one comment that if BD had made par on the last hole (finished at -3) he would have been paired with Jordan S - that is incorrect. As Rory finished earlier than BD, Rory would still have been paired today with Jordan.
The Masters this weekend should provide some exciting golf with windy conditions and cool weather.
Been back playing pool for about a month now as golf is on hold while I await right hip replacement surgery. Used to play a lot in high school (late 50"s) and was pretty decent. Aim and stroke are a little off and miss way to many easy shots. Position play is pretty good. Did purchase a new McDermott cue.
Thanks for reading the long post - take care - Bruce
Welcome to the forum. I'm a three handicap myself, although it's been a while since I've played to it. Enjoy your time here. Lot's to learn.
Some of your old cronies will will showing up at Johnny Morris's new place down at Big Cedar Lodge, near Branson, for the Legends Tournament. 30 miles away, for me. :smile:
I played on the Canadian Tour back in 1990-1994 and had several opportunities to be around Moe. He was truly one of a kind and when he was on the driving range EVERYONE stopped what they were doing to watch Moe hit a golf ball. I have lots of stories but one of my favorites was an example of how his brain worked. We said to him once, "Moe, this fairway is pretty narrow" Moe's response was "Oh,no it's not, no it's not. You can fit 15,000 golf balls in a line across this fairway!" :grin:
Here's Bryson....and Moe
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