The ONLY place on the table you don't concede when giving up BIH

[skogstokig]

It’s delicate, but you can hook them on the point potentially. I tried it with the OB frozen with about a quarter ball overlapping the side pocket opening. Give yourself maybe 10 degrees of angle with the cueball on the opposite side of the pocket and hit a very soft shot approximately full ball. You need the cueball to barely get the rail but if you do you get a corner hook. Try it at home and see if I’m crazy or set it up wrong.

it's damn sensitive but i like it. here's alex higgins playing it on a snooker table:

 

[Bob Jewett]

Why not with ball in hand, scratch and give the shot back with BIH?

Because then he puts the cue ball on the side pocket shelf and shoots the nine straight into the upper right corner.

 

[iusedtoberich]

Because then he puts the cue ball on the side pocket shelf and shoots the nine straight into the upper right corner.

Bob this came up tonight. Player has BIH and does exactly what you are saying, putting the CB inside the pocket on the shelf to shoot outwards on a ball. Suppose while placing the CB there while the player still has it "in hand", he drops the CB in the pocket and it scratches. No ball is touched. Is it a foul? We were split at the pool hall. I said no foul.

 

[Bob Jewett]

No foul, any more than if it was dropped on the floor. Dropped on a ball is a foul, even under some BIH rules.

 

[nataddrho]

With ball in hand could you have done a very soft straight-into-the-rail double kiss on the 7?

 

[easy-e]

Looked like Marc foreign guy tried to move the 7, missed, and went plan B.
Edwards appeared to try a titty or outright multi rail safety and blew it. The 7 was otherwise clear.

Cross side was the shot to take.

I'm not sure that's a possibility here.

 

[Bob Jewett]

I'm not sure that's a possibility here.

The side pocket facing is probably involved. That makes the cross side shot very tricky. Not impossible, but wants more than one try.

 

[Bob Jewett]

ball appeared to be sitting slightly inward on the pocket nose.

To me, the ball looks like 1/4 ball on our side of the pocket point. That puts it on the flat of the cushion. That can't be driven through the point.

 

[Bob Jewett]

Although wnttv.com has videos from this tournament, it doesn't seem to have this match.

 

[straightline]

I'm not sure that's a possibility here.

Observation based on 7 ball appears to be on the table part of the cushion. FxF shows the ball take a straight line at the far tit meaning it wasn't froze. Were that the case, he could have taken the bank from below the side. (more comfortable for me)

 

[iusedtoberich]

I'd like to point out that both players are pros, and surely know every shot available and discussed in this thread. None were on based on giving BIH and then the missed attempted shot.

 

[iusedtoberich]

This happened in a 10 ball open we had locally a couple months ago with a $300 entry. One match was taking forever because the 7 or 8 ball was just like that, and both players kept bunting the prior ball instead of making it. Finally after about 10 min of that one player finally made that ball, and I think he forced the side pocket ball thru the tit and made it. Both players were very familiar with that shot, but I guess neither thought it would go. Until the one guy had enough and went for it.

 

[straightline]

I'd like to point out that both players are pros, and surely know every shot available and discussed in this thread. None were on based on giving BIH and then the missed attempted shot.

Yeah but heavily biasing each other. Typical pool.