The Positive Side of Aiming Systems

SpiderWebComm said:
No one gets a chance to describe them before the aiming police calls foul and says they're geometrically unreliable. Then, tempers flare and the caca hits the fan, usually. I'm not naming any names-- I just think that's what happens.
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Here are a few of your responses in just one thread when you were asked by the "aiming police" to describe how an aiming system works:

SpiderWebComm:
... It's not my place to educate the world.
... I don't care if no one else learns the specifics.
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SpiderWebComm:
... it's not my place to educate anyone on here.
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SpiderWebComm:
... it's not my information to pass on - I've said it a million times.
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SpiderWebComm:
... I can explain it rationally and with great detail, I just choose not to.
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I wonder where I get these crazy ideas?

Let's not hijack Joey's thread.
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If you sincerely don't want to hijack this thread, you should choose another on in which to make argumentative and inaccurate statements.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Here are a few of your responses in just one thread when you were asked by the "aiming police" to describe how an aiming system works:









I wonder where I get these crazy ideas?



If you sincerely don't want to hijack this thread, you should choose another on in which to make argumentative and inaccurate statements.

pj
chgo
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I stand by every single thing I said. I've said that numerous times because Stan makes a living on paid lessons and Ron, although he gives everything for free, charges for in-person lessons as well. So, I'm respecting their livelihood.

You don't know nearly what you think you know, Mr. Johnson. In fact, in many ways you're very ignorant with this game. Your bullheadedness and cocky arrogance not only holds back your game - but allows you to spread bad information to others trying to learn.

LmFao... how long did it take you to quote all of those lines, all night? You must really have a H-on for me.

Want education, pay for a lesson. After looking at your diagrams in the last thread, you really need one. How about you read YOUR condescending posts and post yours next to mine... see which of us is more rude and belligerent.

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I'm sorry Joey. I reread my last post and I sure didn't think it was engaging PJ the way he responded.
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
Here are a few of your responses in just one thread when you were asked by the "aiming police" to describe how an aiming system works:

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I wonder where I get these crazy ideas?

If you sincerely don't want to hijack this thread, you should choose another on in which to make argumentative and inaccurate statements.

pj
chgo
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(PIC OF BABY CRYING REMOVED)
 
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I was going to add my $.02 about positive aspects of aiming systems before the backbiting about the "aiming police" started, so even though cookie man and JimS have declared this thread dead (in their official capacities as AZB Coroners), I'm going to assume they've overstepped their paygrades and go ahead anyway:

I think aiming systems are valuable "head starts" on aiming that narrow down aiming estimations to more manageable and potentially more accurate ranges. In this way I think they're like diamond systems for banking/kicking, which aren't perfect but are valuable references and starting points for figuring out final banking/kicking angles. I think they're also like low-squirt cues, which narrow down the squirt adjustment needed for sidespin shots and make them potentially more accurate and consistent.

But also like diamond systems and low-squirt cues, these aiming systems aren't perfect and must be refined and adjusted to real-life conditions in order to make them work. Diamond systems don't tell you exactly where to shoot, low-squirt cues must still be adjusted for the smaller amount of squirt they produce, and aiming systems must be "fine tuned" to the final aim line. I think it's important to know what you're really getting with these aiming systems so you can use them knowledgeably and effectively to enhance and advance your game, and not as unrealistic "magic bullets" that may obscure the realities of aiming and actually slow or even limit your growth as a result.

Despite their value, diamond systems, low-squirt cues and aiming systems aren't for everybody. But for those who "get" them they're potentially great aids - that are best when clearly understood and realistically used.

pj
chgo
 
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That's what I like PJ positives. Even if you do not use the system in it's entirity you need to learn them. You will undoutedly pull certain shots out of the system and add them to your own game, making you a better player. What I like about pool is it's constant challenges and the never ending learning.
 
Cuemaster98 said:
PJ, I thought the videos and diagram illustrations provided by cleary were very useful to someone new to Ron's aiming technique. The instructions in the video was pretty clear and the concept of pivoting the body was well illustrated.

Regards,
Duc.
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You couldn't leave Joey A's thread free to be about positive aspects.

I find it hard also to let your rubbish be left without comment.

Anyone who followed that entire thread, who had the brains to follow it, knows that:

1. The original video and its claim of bridge pivot point were erroneous.
2. The animation, attempting to explain how the pivot point could shift was erroneous.
3. The claim that a further back pivot could be made without any bridge movement was proved erroneous.

So all the 'rotten' interlopers (PJ and I and a couple of others) were proved correct, and the wannabe system learners shrieked with complaints.

State one thing that I or PJ were wrong about and you get a reply. Else, put your head back in the sand.

Colin
 
Colin Colenso said:
You couldn't leave Joey A's thread free to be about positive aspects.

I find it hard also to let your rubbish be left without comment.

Anyone who followed that entire thread, who had the brains to follow it, knows that:

1. The original video and its claim of bridge pivot point were erroneous.
2. The animation, attempting to explain how the pivot point could shift was erroneous.
3. The claim that a further back pivot could be made without any bridge movement was proved erroneous.

So all the 'rotten' interlopers (PJ and I and a couple of others) were proved correct, and the wannabe system learners shrieked with complaints.

State one thing that I or PJ were wrong about and you get a reply. Else, put your head back in the sand.

Colin
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I'll PM you the things you were wrong about--- let's leave Joey's thread alone. :) peace, my brother.
 
Colin Colenso said:
You couldn't leave Joey A's thread free to be about positive aspects.

I find it hard also to let your rubbish be left without comment.

Anyone who followed that entire thread, who had the brains to follow it, knows that:

1. The original video and its claim of bridge pivot point were erroneous.
2. The animation, attempting to explain how the pivot point could shift was erroneous.
3. The claim that a further back pivot could be made without any bridge movement was proved erroneous.

So all the 'rotten' interlopers (PJ and I and a couple of others) were proved correct, and the wannabe system learners shrieked with complaints.

State one thing that I or PJ were wrong about and you get a reply. Else, put your head back in the sand.

Colin
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Colin nice use of Tuesdays MW word of the day - LOL!!

The Word of the Day for September 23, 2008 is:
interloper ? \in-ter-LOH-per\ ? noun
: one that intrudes in a place or sphere of activity
Example Sentence:
As he watched the startled doe and her fawn dart off into the woods, Nelson felt like an interloper in the forest world.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I'll PM you the things you were wrong about--- let's leave Joey's thread alone. :) peace, my brother.
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Cool. I'm all for a thread focused on the positives. Duc's just giving me the irates.:p

Colin
 
Razorback Randy said:
Colin nice use of Tuesdays MW word of the day - LOL!!

The Word of the Day for September 23, 2008 is:
interloper ? \in-ter-LOH-per\ ? noun
: one that intrudes in a place or sphere of activity
Example Sentence:
As he watched the startled doe and her fawn dart off into the woods, Nelson felt like an interloper in the forest world.
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Example #2:
Spider felt like an interloper as he stumbled upon Colin hugging PJ's nuts.

OK OK OK -- That was a low-blow.... but Razorback lobbed that one up. I guarantee that robbed a few cheap laughs. You can use me in an interloper sentence with my full permission... I can take it as well as dish it out.

C'mon Colin, smile!
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Example #2:
Spider felt like an interloper as he stumbled upon Colin hugging PJ's nuts.

OK OK OK -- That was a low-blow.... but Razorback lobbed that one up. I guarantee that robbed a few cheap laughs. You can use me in an interloper sentence with my full permission... I can take it as well as dish it out.

C'mon Colin, smile!
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LMAO!!! Just having a little fun Colin. No harm meant.
 
Razorback Randy said:
LMAO!!! Just having a little fun Colin. No harm meant.
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He could be sitting right beside me in the bar and I'd still bust his cookies - he knows I'm kidding.
 
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