Probably the best analogy yet.
The story behind the Jackot cues
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There about 4 members you should market that to, and they will defend ya to their death, I can see it now,
"But, but, but the hand movement and the quality of this Chinese Rolex is amazing, best watch I ever owned, doesn't matter it was marked up 10fold, it tells the time accurately".
No shit. Good point.
No, of course he sent me a pm and asked 8 questions about 'do you think I need to lose some weight?'...and then said I could buy one.
I did not buy one.
I sold the cue I had made to someone who wanted it, hit with it, knew who the maker was, and read every post on here while it was being built. I didn't even have to put the cue up for sale and I didn't say it was for sale. The guy hits some balls with it one day in the pool hall and made me an offer and I took it. I didn't even mention a price and the cue hit so good that the guy makes me an offer on the spot. How's that for how it hit?
I had the cue built because I was going to have a shaft made by Schmelke to use to hit some balls with a cue I got from CJ Wiley. I didn't want to use CJ's original shaft. I wanted it left in the original condition from the way it was from the Million Dollar Challenge Tournament in 1996. So I was having the shaft made at the same joint diameter as CJ's. That is when I decided to experiment and go ahead and get a butt made, too. When I sold the cue, I kept the shaft I had made and still have it in the case with the CJ cue. It is a top quality shaft.
So, the cue was liked, the cue was not misrepresented and it wound up with someone who wanted it and I wound up with a shaft for my CJ cue.
As far as my knowing about cues, I know a lot about playing with them and how they are constructed, but I don't research weights of certain woods, densities, glues, etc. That is why I ask cue makers. Put a cue in my hands and I can tell you if I like it or not. I was also interested to know how the different woods would affect the balance to make it where I wanted it.
Same things I would ask a cue maker if I was talking to them on the phone. In this case, I was wanting to have an idea up front before I started making the cue. I wanted opinions from several cue makers. Kind of like getting second opinions from the doctors. If you notice, I had several different opinions from different makers and they all didn't come up with the same diagnosis.
You, on the other hand, seem to be in everybody else's business when you have nothing to do with the situations. You like to stir pots when you aren't the cook or even a worker in the kitchen.
You seem to think you "know" what goes on in other people's business and I know damn well you don't know what was actually discussed between Dean and his customers, if they bothered to talk to him on the phone before they ordered one. Do you work for the NSA and listen in on Dean's calls?
If you want me to have a cue built for you, let me know. Maybe you can use it to actually play pool with instead of studying "Snooker Theory" online and not actually playing the game.
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Since you have yet to answer the question, let's make this as simple as possible...
DO YOU THINK THAT DEAN'S FRAUDULENT BEHAVIOR IS ACCEPTABLE? Yes, or No?
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Yes, or no? You're happy that he fraudulently sold you a cue?
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Ok, so you're ok with Dean fraudulently selling cues to other people?
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What conversatons the other customers had with Dean, I don't know and neither do you.
Go ask them.
You seem to be an expert on this situation, so again I am asking for your opinion. Is it ok that Dean fraudulently sold cues to customers? Yes? Or No? Simple really.
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I'm an expert on my situation, so go bother some other happy customer.
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I didn't ask you about your situation. One more time: Are you ok with Dean fraudulently selling cues to people? Yes, or no? I can do this all night.
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So were you just playing dumb before, were you trying to aid in Dean frauding people when you made the following statements, or are you lying now about what you knew???
Funny how you have tried to shutdown any questions about who the cuemaker was from the get-go.
Heaven forbid someone question Dean...
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When I say "make" I am talking about having "input" on how the cue was made.
I'm was not implying that Jack was sitting behind a lathe churning out cues and I figured everybody else was smart enough to know that from the beginning. If I'm smarter than the rest of you, then that not my problem.
I knew they were experimenting with tapers, ferrules, lengths, etc. and trying to come up with what they thought everyone would like before they had them made. I have shafts with different lengths, different tapers, and different ferrules and it wasn't because the maker screwed up and wasn't paying attention. They were designed like that as an "experiment". I like all of the shafts I have. They are super smooth and all play good. So, like I said, I don't have any problem with my stuff.
So, I'll say the same to you as I did the other guy.
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Funny, lol
And even funnier you have tried to shut down people getting clarification on the cues from the start who maybe weren't as "smart" as you...
Your current story don't match your past statements, but whatever, continue on spinning your narrative.
Heaven forbid someone try to get clarification or question dean.
Funny, lol
And even funnier you have tried to shut down people getting clarification on the cues from the start who maybe weren't as "smart" as you...
Your current story don't match your past statements, but whatever, continue on spinning your narrative.
Heaven forbid someone try to get clarification or question dean.
When I say "Ford" made a car, I'm not implying "Henry Ford" made it down on the assembly line. Somebody else made it with his idea. I think he is dead.
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