The terrible choice of whether to play league or not, must decide by next week
- Thread starter PocketPoint
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing curling, it's just a little more relaxed.
And the pros get paid more. :sorry:
And the pros get paid more. :sorry:
Yes you are. By saying PocketPoint should take it up, you are.
J/K,
-Sean
I was just offering him a friendly team alternative......
I think you should do it. I wouldn't do APA, but I am in a TAP league and if not that I would join a BCA league.
It has been good for my game. There are some excellent players where I play and it has motivated me to improve.
To me it's not a waste of money because it's cheaper than the table time would be if I wasn't in the league. What little I do pay is helping my local pool hall survive.
I'm not obligated to be there every week because we usually have 7 or 8 players on the team and only 5 players play each week. I happen to want to play almost every week and usually only miss when I go on vacation or am feeling really crappy.
The sessions only last 16 weeks so if I start getting burnt out or have some other obligation taking up my time I can sit out a session.
Only downside is the sandbagging and people otherwise playing games with the handicaps. But I never do that and it doesn't even bother me that much because I am just there to try to play my best, win or lose.
Also I know this is debatable but I think overall every new league player does help the sport of pool just that little bit more.
At least you have the option to play or not. I'm hoping our summer 9 ball league plays this year. We don't have a league or a hall near where I stay for the winter. We do have pool tables at our rec centers but nothing of an organized nature. This is a senior area and the level of pool played varies greatly, games are all for fun, not that I'm looking for any action.
Just saying it's a choice I wish I had.
Just saying it's a choice I wish I had.
Does anyone know how much gross, and net profit that the APA has made in the last 2 decades?
For that matter all the different ones???
The only way I'd care is if I were the owner/Ceo, whatever, of the APA. I'm sure those that are paid from the APA, are overpaid in most folks eyes for some reason....it's tough enough to make a living from something pool related. I hope they ALL do well. As long as league participants are happy/content with the way things are run (for the most part), who cares how much the big-wigs are making?!
I would just like to know...I am not knocking anyone just asking..
I guess this is the one pool story no one wants to tell.
The only one's who really know aren't likely to be telling anyone...
And why should they? When did it become anyone's business how much money someone else makes?
The APA is a business. They offer a product for sale at an established price. Their customers choose whether or not they will pay that price for the product offered. If not enough customers choose to buy their product, they will either have to lower the price, or cease offering their product.
People who work for a living deserve to make whatever profits the market will handle. And just to cover the next logical step in this thread, they are also free to distribute their profits in whatever way they see fit.
Steve
Agreed. I should have clarified my post a bit more.
I run a business. It's no ones concern what gross and/or net profit we make here. That's why I wouldn't be telling anyone. Same applies to APA, BCAPL, TAP, e-i-e-i-ohhhhhhh.
That's all I meant.
Again I was just asking for a number. But now that you mention it.
What could be a reason anyone would not show their books to a customer??? It's not like I can't do the math and tell myself...lol
What could be a reason anyone would not show their books to a customer??? It's not like I can't do the math and tell myself...lol
This is not a business we are talking about its a corporation and they have to keep public records...lol lol lol
If that's true, then you have access to all their financials, just like anyone else would. Why not do the research.
But again, I wonder what difference it makes to you. Do you play in the APA? And if you do, does it matter what their profit margins are?
When you buy a television, do you have to know the profit margins of Best Buy, or Sony? Or do you just make a decision if whether or not the television on the shelf is worth what they are asking?
Steve
But again, I wonder what difference it makes to you. Do you play in the APA? And if you do, does it matter what their profit margins are?
When you buy a television, do you have to know the profit margins of Best Buy, or Sony? Or do you just make a decision if whether or not the television on the shelf is worth what they are asking?
Steve
Apa
Jamison,
You're not quite correct here. The APA is a corporation (American Poolplayers Association, Inc., registered in the state of Missouri). As a corporation, they are required to file Annual Reports, but the only information disclosed in these reports is a roster of officers and directors of the corporation. From the limited amount of research I just did, the APA appears to be a privately held corporation, not a publicly traded one. Therefore they don't fall under the purview of the SEC, and are not required to publicly disclose their financial statements. The requirement to furnish audited financial statements to the public is an investor protection issue for companies whose stock is traded on public exchanges (NYSE, NASDAQ, etc), and does not apply to privately owned companies. Making a privately held company's financials available to the general public would be akin to making an individual's tax return publicly available. So it appears that the only way to find out how much money the APA makes would be to buy them, or bribe an officer of the corporation (which I do not recommend trying).
Hope I saved someone some time trying to find the APA's income statement online.
Johnny
Jamison,
You're not quite correct here. The APA is a corporation (American Poolplayers Association, Inc., registered in the state of Missouri). As a corporation, they are required to file Annual Reports, but the only information disclosed in these reports is a roster of officers and directors of the corporation. From the limited amount of research I just did, the APA appears to be a privately held corporation, not a publicly traded one. Therefore they don't fall under the purview of the SEC, and are not required to publicly disclose their financial statements. The requirement to furnish audited financial statements to the public is an investor protection issue for companies whose stock is traded on public exchanges (NYSE, NASDAQ, etc), and does not apply to privately owned companies. Making a privately held company's financials available to the general public would be akin to making an individual's tax return publicly available. So it appears that the only way to find out how much money the APA makes would be to buy them, or bribe an officer of the corporation (which I do not recommend trying).
Hope I saved someone some time trying to find the APA's income statement online.
Johnny