this is why I hate 9 ball
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You're delusional, what you're describing isn't pool. Neither is alternating breaks.
You play the racks as they present themselves. You toss a beating when you can, when someone tosses you a beating you take it like a man, flip a coin & play again, if you have the heart for it.
I always find it ironic they nicknamed him "Iceman". More like Ice Princess, he's always been a fussy little b*tch. The fact that he was one of the loudest voices crying years ago that led to alternating breaks makes watching him get worked like this that much more pleasurable.
That's what the folk purists told Bob Dylan when he plugged in. Somehow this electric guitar thing worked out.
I do think most fans get it. This guy doesnt....must not be a true competitor.
I have learned, especially in gambling, that anytime you show weakness in competition you only make your opponent stronger. I play long sessions often , over 8 to 10 hours. In those situations there is only so much strength to go around, like a championship fight one guy imposes his will. That's what competitive sporrs, especially one on one are like. Look at tennis, guy blows the other off the court with his serve and runs him all over the place until his legs are rubber.
All this nonsense about an opponent deserving an opportunity, switching to alternating break just weakens the game. People want to see packages.
In alternating break the scores are always closer. To me this means a roll or 2, or a couple dry breaks usually decides the winner amongst top talent. In winner break down 7 to 0 in a race to 9 you can still come back if you get to the table and hold it....I mean take it. In alternating break comebacks are much more rare.
Most people watching Mikas crying just laugh....hes making himself look bad. He should know how it is by now and congratulate Jayson on his play. Mika won the US open with a 1st round loss and 13 consecutive wins on the loser's side. He's got plenty of heart.
Yes! I love this match!
Great analogy. Btw 1st rnd ko just last night. UFC.
"Is your name Mila" LMFAO!!
Another great post. But since you know Upstate so well I must correct you....
It's "Mikur this and Mikur that" lol
His New Yorkness butcher's a lot of names!
It's Jayson Shawr for him too lol.
The point is, you are never going to compete at that level so you will never ever be in the situation of being a great player who doesn't get an opportunity.
All you losses against great players will be warranted because you'll suck.
I also watched this match live on stream.
Jayson was an industrial-grade buzzsaw.
By coming to the table a number of times, Mika also had opportunities to be the buzzsaw, but he didn't do it.
It may be that no one was gonna beat Jayson that match the way he was playing.
To me, it was masterful and exciting to watch.
I've been hoping to play a single match like that for over 45 years and still haven't. He made it look like childs play.
Me and my pals never get bored with 9 ball. I love the game as it is. :lovies:
best,
brian kc
Jayson was an industrial-grade buzzsaw.
By coming to the table a number of times, Mika also had opportunities to be the buzzsaw, but he didn't do it.
It may be that no one was gonna beat Jayson that match the way he was playing.
To me, it was masterful and exciting to watch.
I've been hoping to play a single match like that for over 45 years and still haven't. He made it look like childs play.
Me and my pals never get bored with 9 ball. I love the game as it is. :lovies:
best,
brian kc
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Pool stopped being purely about skill and more about entertainment from the moment the Mosconi-Fats ABC special event occurred. Before that the game of champions was 14.1, and even that had a similar element of luck in that great players were capable of running 150 and out. But Cosell steered that match into tomfoolery, the audience lapped it up because no one told them that everything Fats said was pure hocum, and straight pool was murdered as the top game right on national TV. The irony is that the movie Fats, who the phony Fats claimed was modeled on him, would never have condescended to play 8 or 9 ball - he was strictly a straight pool player. Until the sequel.
The best test ever conducted, IMO to determine the world champion was back in the 30s or 40s when they did a 32 round round robin of 150 point 14.1 matches. that took 6 months. At the end they had played so much and the gap was so big between hi and the other players, that it was obvious that Mosconi was far and away the best.
Back in the day the 3C world championship was held as a round robin of the top 8 or 16 guys with games to 60. Since it truly identified the best player, the same guy, Ceulemans, won it over and over again, almost every year for 25 years, because he was the best. Until Blomdahl came along and knocked him off the pinnacle.
Sooo...you wanna watch players doing drills?
.....and spectators should wear safety helmets when somebody breaks?
Maybe players should have to use the same cue....equal opportunity n all
I hate 9 ball because of slop.........anytime you play a game where luck can determine the winner sucks.
Pool is a game of skill and strategy versus luck and if you want games involving luck, go to a casino.
Some might argue it's part of the game.....rub of the green so to speak.......to which I respond "Bullshit."
I submit when you miss a shot & another ball accidentally ball drops or you bang away blindly, that's not pool.
It's just an accident and you should never win based on accidents and in 9 ball. there's way too many of them.
10 ball or 14.1 are my games of choice because there is no slop. If I lose, at least I know it's not because of luck.
Matt B.
Pool is a game of skill and strategy versus luck and if you want games involving luck, go to a casino.
Some might argue it's part of the game.....rub of the green so to speak.......to which I respond "Bullshit."
I submit when you miss a shot & another ball accidentally ball drops or you bang away blindly, that's not pool.
It's just an accident and you should never win based on accidents and in 9 ball. there's way too many of them.
10 ball or 14.1 are my games of choice because there is no slop. If I lose, at least I know it's not because of luck.
Matt B.
I would expect that answer from a top level chess player (part of the Texas Tech program?). Makes some sense in that game because there's an inherent advantage to moving first.
However, there is one move before the first break in a 9 ball tournament that isn't present in a format like chess: the lag. Both players have the opportunity to use a skill shot to have that advantage of breaking first. Want to go first? Lag better than the other guy.
Nope I'm not in the Texas Tech program.
Coached a few of their players for many years but never played in their program. I'm too old for that.
You're right about the lag.
Thank you.
Figured you to be affiliated as a coach or professor of some sort as a GM, not so much a part of that team. I see after a quick look at that team that there are a few GMs of college age, which surprised me a bit.
My own title of Municipal Patzer is one I've held with great pride for many years.
I think what you have there is a not so rare phenomenon of a pool player *in stroke* and playing well. You're blaming the *game* for that?
KMRUNOUT
That has nothing to do with 9b. That's the winner break format for you.
Move to alternate break. Problem solved, end of story.
