This Just In-I Believe a 1940 Willie Hoppe Professional

cuesblues said:
That's exactly why I started this thread
I remember calling Dick before I knew anything about AZ Billiards about 3 fairly expensive Josswest cues I wanted to buy, just to get his opinion.
He told me it sounded like a good deal
Probably about the time AZB started, 2003.
Would love to see him posting on AZ again

Dick is also the guy who originally posted the catalog and price sheets for the National-Gandy cues we have all referenced so many times, signed by Ricco Cervantes
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You just wait!

I have a cue so similar to yours it will knock your socks off(you do wear socks....don't you?). I am candle burning(both ends) so I cant post pics till later. I have collected a few of these relicts and can fake that I actually know a few facts about them if I need to. Your cue is badass and a rare one for sure! We need to get together soon and let these cues rub on each other a bit.

I bought three of my Hoppes to Felts a few weeks ago just to see if anyone cared...a few did!.
 
maybe if we search the internet we can find a WWII photo of a white flag being waved on these 1940's French made cues.
 
measureman said:
maybe if we search the internet we can find a WWII photo of a white flag being waved on these 1940's French made cues.
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I'm trying to understand your reluctance to realize that Brunswick had the entire cue, parts or assembled in France around 1940. The Germans didn't occupy the Northern sectors till Sept. of 40.And the cue, white flag thing, what's that all about? :confused:
 
mr3cushion said:
I'm trying to understand your reluctance to realize that Brunswick had the entire cue, parts or assembled in France around 1940. The Germans didn't occupy the Northern sectors till Sept. of 40.And the cue, white flag thing, what's that all about? :confused:
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Simple-Seems he is not a fan of the French.
 
Cuebuddy said:
You just wait!

I have a cue so similar to yours it will knock your socks off(you do wear socks....don't you?). I am candle burning(both ends) so I cant post pics till later. I have collected a few of these relicts and can fake that I actually know a few facts about them if I need to. Your cue is badass and a rare one for sure! We need to get together soon and let these cues rub on each other a bit.

I bought three of my Hoppes to Felts a few weeks ago just to see if anyone cared...a few did!.
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Nice
I've picked up two this year at the retirement center in Loveland.
It's funny that some of these guys who just have old cues with points think they are Willie Hoppe cues.
One I think is a very old Huebler I wouldn't mind having, but he plays with it, and I don't need it.
Can't say no to Titlist cues.
I'll bring the Rambows down to Felt when they are done.
 
Chopdoc said:
Indeed. Dick Abbott knows cues. I had the pleasure of some email exchanges with him and bought an ebony Titlist conversion from him. Smart dude, I like that. :smile:

I have heard these cues with the shield logo on the forearm are French. I have heard the splice was made in France and the cue completed here. I have also heard the entire cue was made in France. I think it may have varied.

Then there were also the Brunswick Canada cues. I have one example.

I do not yet have a French example. I was outbid on Brunswick France "propeller" logo cue and another AZB member got it.

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I sold one on Ebay, never bought one.
I've found the best deals just kind of happen for some reason.
One time I found a like new signature cue, and a WWII Master Stroke at the gun
store next to Greenfields Billiard Bar in Lakewood, CO.
Both them both from the owner of the store for $300.

When I first got back into pool I never thought about cue restoration.
A guy I play pool with wanted me to come over at look at some cues he was selling.
I couldn't believe he was trying to sell me a trash can full of these old crappy cues
with ebony spliced shafts, other old Brunswick's, and I didn't buy anything because
they were all missing the wedge.
Those cues to me at the time looked like firewood.
He wanted like $50 a piece or less and I could have bought them all for very little.
How did I know the wedge could be made, and the famous "guys at the pool hall"
said cues are never the same once they are refinished.
 
cuesblues said:
Nice
I've picked up two this year at the retirement center in Loveland.
It's funny that some of these guys who just have old cues with points think they are Willie Hoppe cues.
One I think is a very old Huebler I wouldn't mind having, but he plays with it, and I don't need it.
Can't say no to Titlist cues.
I'll bring the Rambows down to Felt when they are done.
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I will contact you next time I roll down the hill. And keep in mind I have been looking for a Rambo for my meager collection. The few that pop up on EBay are crazy high priced.
 
Check it out

The pics aren't the greatest but here it is.
 

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Spectacular.

I love seeing these cues.

I think I have one or two around here somewhere...:rolleyes:

But nothing as cool as these.

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I've always wondered, why are these so sought after? Is it just the collectors value? Or do people still play with these because they have that good a hit?
 
mr3cushion said:
I'm trying to understand your reluctance to realize that Brunswick had the entire cue, parts or assembled in France around 1940. The Germans didn't occupy the Northern sectors till Sept. of 40.And the cue, white flag thing, what's that all about? :confused:
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i have no reluctance to believing that some were made in France.
And as far as waving the white flag the French are known for surrendering.
I thought maybe we could find a photo of a white flag on a cue.
They gave up their country to a much smaller army with less tanks then they had in 41 days.
They should have fought like the Russians did when they were invaded.
No they just gave up.
Then they did the same thing in Viet Nam some 15 years later.
 
measureman said:
Mainly i think its the classic look.
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And the nostalgia.

Heck...I am not that old and I remember a couple of WH Pro cues in the rack at a little pizza place that had one pool table. One was sixties (I know now) and the other was earlier and had an ivory Hoppe ring.

They belonged to the old man that owned the place. Nobody really cared much about them, including him. They got played occasionally, but people mostly played the Valley house cues he had.

That was right around when I started playing...about 1985.

Sure wish I had those cues.
 
Positively Ralf said:
I've always wondered, why are these so sought after? Is it just the collectors value? Or do people still play with these because they have that good a hit?
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Go buy a fullsplice cue with a leather wrap for $250 and it will end up being a basic Willie Hoppe Professional cue.

The nicer Hoppes, like the one Cueblues posted, sells for double and is STILL a bargain compared to what is available out there in a fullsplice with veneers.
 
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