I have used both and the Navigator is as clean as the Taom. I am currently using the Taom.
Thom Pyro chalk
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2.0 is about same as blue Pyro. Feels different when chalking though..
Sorry it the pic didn't come out better but they are Pyro's.
Here is a better picture:
I'm hearing from these posts that Taom chalk sticks more than other chalks to the tip (don't need to reapply as often; no chalk dust on table), but less than other chalks to the CB (fewer skids, etc.). How is that possible?
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I agree Measureman, Predator is the worst. It seems almost oily to me. Gets the cue ball really dirty and I miscue more. Masters leaves a lot of chalk on the cue ball. Triangle is just as economical as masters and leaves less chalk. Taom is close to leaving no chalk. Even after applying a lot of chalk to the tip you can tap tip on the edge of the pocket and see no puff of chalk as opposed to Master and to a lesser degree Triangle.
Plus: Chalk on the cue ball is a distraction for me. I try within reason to keep all my home equipment chalk free to give cloth, shaft and balls a longer life. Your bridge hand stays much cleaner too because chalk is not all over the cloth.
I got a piece of the blue Taom Pyro and noticed more miscues when using extreme english. You can actually see the chalk doesn't appear to stick to the very outside of the tip. Might try the V10 because I've heard others say it has less miscues.
I don´t really know how they achieved that but that´s true.
My experience is that it will not somehow want to stick anything hard material. The inventor is a genius IMHO. He is Snooker fan and always heard commentators talk "kicks" and bad contacts and then tried to overcome that with solution. Chalk that does not stick on balls. Cleanliness is probably just something that came with by solution.
Here is interview of Taom founder guy Toni Ursin if interested(in Finnish). English Subtitles if you turn them on in Youtube.
You should give Navigator chalk a try. I've tried them all and Toam and Navigator are in a league of their own. And the big plus is Navigator is square.
V10, you won't be disappointed
MurrayNevada
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Just waiting for the blue.
I’m not sure that it sticks to the tip more. In fact, I don’t believe it does. However, it 100% leaves the cueball and the table cleaner, and with one piece of chalk lasting a year easily, I’d probably pay $60 a piece for that reason alone. On the rare occasion I don’t play at home, I now can’t stand playing against people who aren’t using it.
EDIT: And since the majority of snooker players started using Taom, kicks have become almost nonexistent, unless Ronnie or Trump are playing
So what I'm gleening from this thread is simply that Taom Pyro does not load up on the tip during application. ...and that typical 'loading' from what I'll assume is softer chalks, is not necessary as it performs adequately in a lesser amounts as compared to alternatives....?
I have to assume it's 'harder' because if it wasn't then it woud load up a tip no differently than something like Master. ...and if it did load up like Master then there'd be no advantage in how dirty it gets a table. If the chalk doesn't end up on th CB then it must end up on the table. yes/no?
Does anyone think the light colour of the Pyro has anything to do with not noticing a build up on their table cloth...?
I'm just about to recloth my table and I'm more than willing to switch to whatever if it will help me keep my table clean. I've been using Triangle since the dawn of time and haven't been annoyed enough to switch to something else, but I'm more than willing to make a switch. That said, chasing various 'designer chalks' for steep money isn't a habit I'm willing to adopt.
I have to assume it's 'harder' because if it wasn't then it woud load up a tip no differently than something like Master. ...and if it did load up like Master then there'd be no advantage in how dirty it gets a table. If the chalk doesn't end up on th CB then it must end up on the table. yes/no?
Does anyone think the light colour of the Pyro has anything to do with not noticing a build up on their table cloth...?
I'm just about to recloth my table and I'm more than willing to switch to whatever if it will help me keep my table clean. I've been using Triangle since the dawn of time and haven't been annoyed enough to switch to something else, but I'm more than willing to make a switch. That said, chasing various 'designer chalks' for steep money isn't a habit I'm willing to adopt.
To me that sounds contradictory. What keeps it off the ball and table if not sticking more to the tip? But on the other hand, how would it stick more to one surface than another?
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I won’t use anything else on my home table, and the few times I’ve had other players visit, I asked if they’d mind using one of the spare Taom’s I have. It’s not just the color. I’ve used the green and blue Taom on both powder blue and tournament blue cloth. It definitely keeps my table cleaner.
I know, I know. I guess I just meant to say that it’s irrelevant to me whether it stays on my tip longer, because I chalk every couple of shots anyway, and always chalk if I’m playing something with a bit of juice. Put it this way, it’s not like Kamui .98 or 1.21 or whatever they were called. That’s the only chalk I felt actually stayed on longer, but it also came off more on the table and cueball, which is also contradictory.
Most pro snooker players have commented that they’ve had to be a little more careful applying chalk when they switch to Taom, because if anything, they’ve had more miscues, but remedied by just being a little more thorough with application. Also, adding here re. the above comment about color, if you watch Ronnie playing someone, for example Neil Robertson in the Grand Prix (on atm), you’ll notice chalk marks on the cloth when Ronnie plays deep screw shots, but nothing from Neil. Neil uses Taom.
Taom Pyro does not stick to or cake up on the tip as much as other chalks. Because of this, you need to be a little more careful to get good chalk coverage on the tip. Regardless, not much transfers to the CB, and cling/skid/kick seems to occur less frequently as a result. I demonstrate this in my video: