Thoughts on Cue Pictures

ScottR

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Being a cue junky and reading many for sale and gallery threads, some thoughts occurred to me. Just wanted to put them on the table and see what others thought.

1. I think macro pics detract somewhat from a cue. What I mean is that the naked eye looking at a cue takes in the whole design, then pieces and parts of it. Looking at a zoomed-in inlay certainly shows the technical proficiency of the builder. But, doesn't really show how it fits with the rest of the cue.

2. For the most part, a quality full-length shot, one of the sleeve and one of the forearm are all that are needed. Personally, I don't care if I ever again see a closeup of a wrap (linen, leather, exotic), unless there is something new or unique about it. Again, the wrap should complement the whole cue. If someone requests, or the poster wants to highlight, a closeup, that's cool. But, 8 pics of the joint screw or tips/ferrules seems a bit overkill to me.

C. Posting blurry pictures is worse than posting none at all. Every camera has the ability to take a clear picture. Keep taking them until you get one. They don't have to be dwbod or berny level. But you should be able to tell how many veneers a cue has or if an inlay is a diamond or oval. Take the cue outside and you will have enough light for the camera to focus properly. True story.

IV. I cringe every time I see a cue picture taken over concrete!!! Doesn't matter if the cue is sitting on something else, one slip and it is ding/scratch/worse-city. Wooden decks are only slightly better.

That is all that occur to me this morning. Please add your own.

Scott <<== IMHO
 
I concur with all.

Natural lighting and macro is your friend..... and I won't want to see tips/ferrules 18 times.... LOL
 
Scott, I absolutely agree....all are great points. That's one reason we have stayed with the scanning method for cues....for the most part it shows you what you need to see and at life size, where you can see the proportions. I consider myself a pretty weak photographer, so it's difficult to get the lighting, angles, and settings right to get good camera images that truly give you an idea what the cue looks like in your hands. Very few folks do them really well....ala Icon, Berny and Doug.

Sean
 
Same photos..

Being a cue junky and reading many for sale and gallery threads, some thoughts occurred to me. Just wanted to put them on the table and see what others thought.
Please add your own.
Scott <<== IMHO

Not complaining,.. :)
but, I notice...:confused:
When quoting someone's post with lots of Big Photos...
Delete the Photos of that "Quoted Post" if not pertaining to a speciflc
Shot..
To see the same big multi-photos over and over for one simple comment added is a waste of time, scrolling and memory space of this site..
I'm not mad, Just an obsevation.. :)
 

Not complaining,.. :)
but, I notice...:confused:
When quoting someone's post with lots of Big Photos...
Delete the Photos of that "Quoted Post" if not pertaining to a speciflc
Shot..
To see the same big multi-photos over and over for one simple comment added is a waste of time, scrolling and memory space of this site..
I'm not mad, Just an obsevation.. :)

Thank you for saying that.

-dj
 
Oh, and linking to a photo-bucket type site that tries to download a buttload of files (probably spyware) really irks me too.

Scott
 
Here's one:

Phones are for taking and making calls. They are NOT to be used to take pictures of your cue!!!
 
Here's one:

Phones are for taking and making calls. They are NOT to be used to take pictures of your cue!!!

LoL! I took the following picture with a now 'ancient' Nikon CoolPix 4300 4 megapixel digital camera, a cheap $20 tripod, a make shift light box using a pair of old oak tv tray tables, an old sheet, and some fabric I had laying around, positioned on my covered pool table directly under the table lights for lighting. The rest is just time and patience and playing with different settings on the camera for the best effect.

josey1-2.jpg


Still not to the level of others pics here, but all in all, not too bad. :) With that said, one well taken picture can just about make a sale all on it's own.

Lisa
 
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Lisa,
Thanks for showing how to do it right.

In addition, after that. I think you need macros of the forearm and butt sleeve. The grip if it is unique.
 
A shot of joint pin, bottom of shaft, then whole cue, then forearm, then butt sleeve. But it is a good thing to shoot the edge of the wrap on both ends, ( be it linen or leather) to show if it is flush or raised/lower as IMO, it is a good indication of the builder.
I also agree, if you quote a post, please delete the pics that are not needed. Wasted space on the server, and especially annoying if they are of a larger resolution that requires scrolling left to right to read the other posts in the thread.
JMO,
Dave
 
First I need a cue worth taking a picture of. :D

I guess I could make a montage of junk.. I know I have a Budweiser cue and some painted thing I scraped all the neon stripes off of around here somewhere, and a purpleheart sneaky with a cracked butt, and ...

JonnyB
 
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Wow - good thread to discuss and provide some opinions....

1. Macro vs. Full-Length
Agree that the cue should be shown with maybe full forearm and full butt sleeves if a good full length shot cannot be obtained.
But a full-length shot is always ideal.
Macro images are ideal after the complete design is illustrated.
Macro images can provide some details of items that cannot be seen very well with a naked eye.
Fine line silver, seamless veneers, hidden glue lines for inlays, and some other hidden talents of a cue builder.

2. Blurry Images
This can be a challenge for some but as ScottR mentioned a good image can be attained with ideal lighting (natural light or white light) and some trial and errors with the camera.
All attempts should be made to post images that are vivid.

3. Backgrounds
I do have to say seeing dirty bed sheets does turn my stomach so I would prefer to see to be warned before looking at these images.

Personally guilty of taking all my most recent images on the concrete deck but I do go through a lot of pain to make sure the cues are protected before I start.
Now this is my opinion of where I personally think some of the best images of cues were taken with a pool as the background, the sky as the background, the cue is hovering over rocks or stone tiles on a floor, and some good images were taken of cues in trimmed grass.
Good stuff by some creative photographers within this forum.
All of the photographers are those who painfully take care of the cues and most are later made available on the secondary market and no issue are ever brought up.
My best image over concrete and stone borders (2 hours of setting up and taking images for the gallery and not a scratch on the 3/8" Propeller by Barry)...
Forearm-3.jpg



Scott - how is that 40D coming along?
Looking forward to seeing some images of thing you have done recently with all the things you may have learned...
Talk to you soon.
 
Myron brings up great points, as always. Concrete, tile, rocks as background are great counterpoints for the pictures.

Just don't let me see you lay your uber-fancy Schick on the driveway!!! :angry::grin:

Scott
 
Well, Richard Black once told me that cues are meant to be viewed at arm's length.

Personally I feel that when building a technically precise item then part of the art of it is the precision with which it can be done so while I can certainly appreciate a cue that looks great from arm's length I can REALLY appreciate it when it's precisely done.

I would like to ask everyone to consider their picture widths. I try to keep mine under 800 pixels wide so that they don't invoke the bottom left-to-right scroll bar. I hate that scroll bar when reading this forum.

I use a program called IrfanView to batch resize my pictures and get them to 600px wide.

Regarding macro pix - I think that they can be disconcerting, especially the super zoom ones and the weird angle ones. Case makers - same thing the strange angle pix are artsy but a little discombobulating (to me) how ever some of them are very artistically done.

Anyway that's my thoughts.
 
I agree with your points and here's something i'd like to add. How can someone list a $3K or greater cue for sale with cell phone pictures or blurry pictures? If you are trying to sell a high end cue on the internet to me getting the best pictures possible is a must. You could invest in a descent camera, if you don't have one, to help make your cue sell and still have the camera after the sale.

James
 
I agree with your points and here's something i'd like to add. How can someone list a $3K or greater cue for sale with cell phone pictures or blurry pictures? If you are trying to sell a high end cue on the internet to me getting the best pictures possible is a must. You could invest in a descent camera, if you don't have one, to help make your cue sell and still have the camera after the sale.

James

I agree totally.
 
I have another question.....

Why do people often show a picture (or 4!) of South West cues from the butt end, with the bumper removed? Is that supposed to authenticate that it is a SW?

Scott
 
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