Threads I Hate The Most
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JAM said:Thanks for the respect -- I think.
I do not post -- or maybe I should say -- I have not posted in previous times for the purpose of having my posts evaluated. What's one man's junk may be another man's pleasure.
I am a long-time member of this forum and have witnessed the evolution of what it has become today. I think because of the growth spirt in membership, new members should be accorded a welcoming environment. Maybe they have not searched the forum to read all the Who's the Best threads, et cetera, and as such, they may initiate a thread or post about a topic which has been discussed ad nauseum. Should they be chastized for repetitiveness on topics that maybe veteran members have already read in times gone by? I don't think so.
What is offensive material to some may not be offensive to others. I remember when it deemed to be offensive, the mere mention of Santa Claus on this forum because this fictional character represented a untoward subject matter which was offensive to some readers, but not all readers.
Because the forum has grown, it has experienced what I would term as "growing pains." I think this happens in all newsgroups, discussion forums, and the like. To preclude someone from posting here because their content is not deemed worthy by a minute few seems sad to this reader.
Carry on with the debate. I just wanted to insert my 2 cents worth, which ain't worth much anymore. That was then, and this is now.
JAM
Hey, were ya been? Dollface !!!
Jude Rosenstock said:
Whilst you continue to make some valid points, in some respects you do seem to be simultaneously digging ever deeper into a hole that you're already in, the above sentence being an example.
The above quoted extract effectively means that in your opinion in the past there have been some people posting in some places on the main forum who have no interest in pool and who have been attracted in to the site or into the thread concerned solely by the non pool nature of the thread title/content. You also obviously think this occurs at a frequency which justifies raising concerns about it. That's no small allegation!
Under the circumstances could you give even one example of a poster in the main forum whom you know, or even suspect, to have NO interest in pool? Presumably you should have dozens, if not hundreds, of examples in mind if you genuinely believe what you have said to be true. If you don't know of lots of such existing posters the line of argument you put forward in the above quote falls flat on its face.
The answer is of course that you do not know of any such posters who have NO interest in pool. I suspect that what you actually mean is that some thread titles and content attract posters who do not meet your personal litmus test of "adequate pool related credibility". That's fine for what it is and you are perfectly entitled to 'want' to get rid of such posters from the main forum.......but perhaps you should stop dressing up what you 'want' as something different an something less selfish than what it actually is
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I agree with some of your points but here is where we part ways:
This is a free forum. Is it about billiards? Yes it is, but as you would know from spending many years in any pool room, the conversations vary greatly in topic, and usually have little to do with pool. It is the social aspect that many of us enjoy, and being on an online forum may be no different. So asking people to restrict their posts to pool only might be a stretch.
Regarding fans...why not have them post every little thing/tidbit about their favorite players? If we don't promote, appreciate our pros then where does that leave us? I am not saying everyone should care whether Johnny Archer wears Fruit of the Looms, but some of the users might...and this board is for them too. Remember, "fan" is short for "fanatic". Just because you don't care about a topic does not make it unacceptable for everyone else. I personally have no interest in 8-ball...but I would not dare ask anyone to not post about it.
In short, lighten up.
This is a free forum. Is it about billiards? Yes it is, but as you would know from spending many years in any pool room, the conversations vary greatly in topic, and usually have little to do with pool. It is the social aspect that many of us enjoy, and being on an online forum may be no different. So asking people to restrict their posts to pool only might be a stretch.
Regarding fans...why not have them post every little thing/tidbit about their favorite players? If we don't promote, appreciate our pros then where does that leave us? I am not saying everyone should care whether Johnny Archer wears Fruit of the Looms, but some of the users might...and this board is for them too. Remember, "fan" is short for "fanatic". Just because you don't care about a topic does not make it unacceptable for everyone else. I personally have no interest in 8-ball...but I would not dare ask anyone to not post about it.
In short, lighten up.
"Its about consideration..."
This coming from the person that took pleasure in the closing of Bill &
Billie's and was happy to say so in the forum..
How interesting.
This coming from the person that took pleasure in the closing of Bill &
Billie's and was happy to say so in the forum..
How interesting.
memikey said:Whilst you continue to make some valid points, in some respects you do seem to be simultaneously digging ever deeper into a hole that you're already in, the above sentence being an example.
The above quoted extract effectively means that in your opinion in the past there have been some people posting in some places on the main forum who have no interest in pool and who have been attracted in to the site or into the thread concerned solely by the non pool nature of the thread title/content. You also obviously think this occurs at a frequency which justifies raising concerns about it. That's no small allegation!
Under the circumstances could you give even one example of a poster in the main forum whom you know, or even suspect, to have NO interest in pool? Presumably you should have dozens, if not hundreds, of examples in mind if you genuinely believe what you have said to be true. If you don't know of lots of such existing posters the line of argument you put forward in the above quote falls flat on its face.
The answer is of course that you do not know of any such posters who have NO interest in pool. I suspect that what you actually mean is that some thread titles and content attract posters who do not meet your personal litmus test of "adequate pool related credibility". That's fine for what it is and you are perfectly entitled to 'want' to get rid of such posters from the main forum.......but perhaps you should stop dressing up what you 'want' as something different an something less selfish than what it actually is
You have now deliberately taken me out of context. This was my post:
"I'm sorry, I never said anyone should be "disqualified from posting". My point is, we should keep things more pool related. I would like to think the threads here are intended for pool players. That's it, in a nutshell. I don't understand why someone would want to start a thread that would attract people who have no interest in pool, which was really my point.
The initial comment was related to talking to persons in a poolroom. MikeM was simply saying that he'd like his experience at azb to mimic his experience at the poolroom - he wants to be able to interact with an assortment of people from players to non-players.
Perhaps there was a disconnect in understanding at this moment but to me, "non-players" are those that have absolutely nothing to do with pool. I'm not saying they should be "disqualified" but why would we even care about their opinions in this forum?"
My reference, as stated above is in regards to what MikeM said. It wasn't an allegation of other threads. The real answer is, you should try to keep my words in context when you decide to comment on them.
Seriously, you're a very good and thoughtful writer on the whole. Please, if you're going to quote me, quote me in whole and then comment. Don't take one snipet of what I say which is obviously supported by other sentences and then omit them.
I agree 100%.
To me, the forum is similar to a pool room. You have all kinds of characters with different backgrounds and from different places who have different interests and like to talk about or tell stories about anything and everything. Pool is just something we all share in common.
If everybody at the pool room just talked about pool 24/7 I'd be bored to death.
If everybody at the pool room just talked about pool 24/7 I'd be bored to death.
If their attempt at humor puts a smile on someone's face or gets a chuckle it was indeed useful.
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Jude Rosenstock said:
I am a non-player.
I do not agree with this concept about non-players.
Personally, if somebody has "absolutely nothing to do with pool," I do not think they would even know anything at all about this forum.
Those diagram threads piss me off. Every time I click on the thread, I get this annoying pop-up. I think there should be a separate forum for these annoying diagram threads with these pop-ups, so that those of us who do not like them don't have to be subjected to a surprise pop-up every time we click that thread.
AzBilliards Discussion Forum used to be a joy in my life. The climate on AzBilliards is much different than when I first joined.
My passion for pool used to be strong. I used to enjoy attending tournaments and sharing my non-pool-player thoughts on this forum.
Today, when I login to read this forum, some of the opinions, many of which are on this thread, are not representative of the pool world as I know it. I find myself logging in here less and less because of it.
JAM
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Ok. I see what you are saying Jude. But I think that you may be being a little too vague and general.
Me personally? I'll tell you the threads I hate.
1) I screwed up this run-out! I hate myself! (Dr. Cue's Protege)
2) I think this girl is super pretty. But I'm a loser and no one loves me and I live above my dad's garage and blow easy run-outs all the time. (Dr. Cue's Protege)
3) Earl plays good with cuetec cue and Allison also plays good with cuetec cue and if both play with cuetec cue and play each other with cuetec cue, I wonder who would play better with their cuetec cue because cuetec cues are such good cues and both are... you get the point. (travis trotter).
Me personally? I'll tell you the threads I hate.
1) I screwed up this run-out! I hate myself! (Dr. Cue's Protege)
2) I think this girl is super pretty. But I'm a loser and no one loves me and I live above my dad's garage and blow easy run-outs all the time. (Dr. Cue's Protege)
3) Earl plays good with cuetec cue and Allison also plays good with cuetec cue and if both play with cuetec cue and play each other with cuetec cue, I wonder who would play better with their cuetec cue because cuetec cues are such good cues and both are... you get the point. (travis trotter).
Dcp
I hate most DCP threads, or at least the ones that he starts! I love the ones that are making fun of him or ripping on him though! LOL
I don't think I have ever seen someone on a forum so annoying or controversial!
I guess maybe I should just quit reading his stuff or put him on my ignore list like all the smart people in here.
I hate most DCP threads, or at least the ones that he starts! I love the ones that are making fun of him or ripping on him though! LOL
I don't think I have ever seen someone on a forum so annoying or controversial!
I guess maybe I should just quit reading his stuff or put him on my ignore list like all the smart people in here.
JAM said:
JAM, I don't consider you to have a non player perspective. Obviously, a good chunk of what you contribute is about you and Keith which is much much different than what I was thinking. Even when you choose to discuss tours and tournament structure, it's justified because it's Keith's livlihood. In fact, I think you have much much more invested in this game than a good chunk of the others.
I'm not going to get into all the different types of non-players but obviously, those that tour and the people affected by their performance are players.
I still would like to know what makes anyone think that their opinion of who can, should, when or where, and about what others can post, should carry any more weight than what Mike, Dave, and the readers think.
Certainly not because they say so. And if someone has an opinion on this, it is only their opinion and does not have to be presented in an arrogant, mean spirited, holier-than-thou, insulting and personal manner.
Rather than becoming a good will ambassador for Az, it will most likely generate more divisive, mean spirited, backlash.
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
Jim
Certainly not because they say so. And if someone has an opinion on this, it is only their opinion and does not have to be presented in an arrogant, mean spirited, holier-than-thou, insulting and personal manner.
Rather than becoming a good will ambassador for Az, it will most likely generate more divisive, mean spirited, backlash.
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
Jim
jimmyg said:
You're absolutely right. Everyone should be far more considerate of my opinion!
Jude Rosenstock said:
If you were more than just a banger then your opinion might merit more consideration.