Tiltlist veneers ready to glue in cue

[brianna187]

We have sets of Titlist veneers glued up and ready for the cue
4 piece set 45.00 shipped to your door these are cut on our new fixture for veneer cutting, a perfect cut every time !!!
LEVERAGE YOUR TIME.... VENNEERS ARE VERY TIME CONSUMING
LET US HELP WITH YOUR VENEER NEEDS..

hmalakoff@chartermi.net

 

[brianna187]

Veneers Ready To Use

We Have Ready To Ship Packs Also V Cut Forarms Just Glue Together And Turn Down

 

[brianna187]

Ready To Ship Come And Get Um

 

[Mr Hoppe]

It would be great if you had close-ups of the finished product so that we could see the veneer colors and joint quality. If you haven't posted this in the cue makers section, you should do that as well.

 

[pdcue]

It would be great if you had close-ups of the finished product so that we could see the veneer colors and joint quality. If you haven't posted this in the cue makers section, you should do that as well.

I'm not Lee, but I've seen pics of his finished cues using these
veeners - looked fine - color is as close as you are going to get
these days - I'm going to make a wild guess he gets them from
you-know-who.

Dale<still Hopp-ing after all these years>

 

[Mr Hoppe]

That's why I was concerned about the colors. If these are Martin's veneers, I've seen some examples where his brown was way off in my opinion, as well other's that I've talked to.

I love the idea of selling these pre-made, would just like to see some examples of the colors to expect, as well as the quality of the joint. I expect that Lee's quality will be outstanding as usual.

 

[jazznpool]

Troy, The T-mahogany was not intended from the start to be an exact replica. We got a brownish gold color that was pleasing and we were happy with it for a while. In an effort to make the T-mahogany more spot on, I recently made a new and darker version that I'd like to see with finish on it. I'm thinking it will be much closer to the original mahogany. I have a cut open 1940's Titlist blank that I work from. I will keep adjusting the T-mahogany until I think it is a good match. I hope that helps.

Martin

That's why I was concerned about the colors. If these are Martin's veneers, I've seen some examples where his brown was way off in my opinion, as well other's that I've talked to.

I love the idea of selling these pre-made, would just like to see some examples of the colors to expect, as well as the quality of the joint. I expect that Lee's quality will be outstanding as usual.

 

[Mr Hoppe]

It is, in fact, the mahogany that is the problem. It's more gold than brown. I'm sure Lee would probably be interested if you have a new color. As we've discussed previously, I will not be purchasing any of your products.

 

[jazznpool]

Troy, I thought this was left in the past, but...as was previously communicated 6 or more months ago, I'm very pleased that you don't intend to buy anything of mine. To be true to your resentment, you'd have to avoid purchasing a cue from the many custom cue makers who use my veneers as well. Have a great day.

Martin Bick

It is, in fact, the mahogany that is the problem. It's more gold than brown. I'm sure Lee would probably be interested if you have a new color. As we've discussed previously, I will not be purchasing any of your products.

 

[pdcue]

It is, in fact, the mahogany that is the problem. It's more gold than brown. I'm sure Lee would probably be interested if you have a new color. As we've discussed previously, I will not be purchasing any of your products.

Wow,

I really don't have a pup in this skirmish, and I wouldn't want to step
on anyone's toes, but it's not really a state secret that
several places sell wood veneer.

If there is something problematical with the mahog, why
not just buy some mahogany veneer.

Dale

 

[Mr Hoppe]

Wow,
I really don't have a pup in this skirmish, and I wouldn't want to step
on anyone's toes, but it's not really a state secret that
several places sell wood veneer.

If there is something problematical with the mahog, why
not just buy some mahogany veneer.
Dale

Yeah, Martin thinks he's the only game in town...
And you're absolutely right Dale, the smart ones do exactly that.

I'll not post to this thread again so as not to distract from Lee's intent, but I'm glad to bump the thread for one of the good guys.

 

[pdcue]

Wow,

I really don't have a pup in this skirmish, and I wouldn't want to step
on anyone's toes, but it's not really a state secret that
several places sell wood veneer.

If there is something problematical with the mahog, why
not just buy some mahogany veneer.

Dale

I shoukd have added before. I haven't seen the Mahogany
in person - so I don't have an opinion.

But from the pics - the Titlist colors look good
and I am VERY glad that they have been made available.
Planning to get some for my next 'batch'

Dale<more planning than doing these days>

 

[tpdtom]

That's why I was concerned about the colors. If these are Martin's veneers, I've seen some examples where his brown was way off in my opinion, as well other's that I've talked to.

I love the idea of selling these pre-made, would just like to see some examples of the colors to expect, as well as the quality of the joint. I expect that Lee's quality will be outstanding as usual.

[/QUOTE=Mr Hoppe]It is, in fact, the mahogany that is the problem. It's more gold than brown. I'm sure Lee would probably be interested if you have a new color. As we've discussed previously, I will not be purchasing any of your products.[/QUOTE]

[/QUOTE=Mr Hoppe]Yeah, Martin thinks he's the only game in town...
And you're absolutely right Dale, the smart ones do exactly that.

I'll not post to this thread again so as not to distract from Lee's intent, but I'm glad to bump the thread for one of the good guys. [/QUOTE]

I'm disgusted to say the least with the discovery of one forum member's criticism of another's product or sale. In this case, whether you like the veneers or not, you are trying to make a disparaging comment about one of the BEST sellers with the highest principals on AZB. Martin at www.westerncue.com bends over backwards to satisfy all his buyers. If he can't, he simply cheerfully refunds your money. I can't understand why anyone except a disturbed individual would publicly slam him and I couldn't let it pass. Troy, you seem to make a habit out of this.

I happen to know that NUMEROUS 'HALL OF FAME' cuemakers and quite a few others who have fabulous (the best) reps are using and touting Martin's veneers. He (Martin) wasn't satisfied himself with the mahogany and has been working to improve it, however he has offered to replace any that anyone didn't like or refund their money as I said. Currently, I just had a cuemaker I am ordering 2 cues from who is notable for his perfect renditions of period Brunswick cues tell me that Martin's veneers, INCLUDING the mohagany, are the best available anywhere at any price!

Let's STOP this public slamming of other's sales and products. It shows no class or judgement. As I've said in the past, if you don't like someone's sale for price or content, just click the back button. For all the third parties reading this, REMEMBER....THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY...Tom

 

[brianna187]

i have bought from martin and spoke on the phone with him several times always pleasurable dealings i do like his products i am sorry if some dont i am glad to things on here settle down from a few months ago like someone here said lets all try to use this forum to help each other and learn from one another i think in general when poeple all try to get along we all feel better lets use our engrey to make better products and enjoy our love of cues and pool thanks everyone have a great weekend....lee

 

[Mr Hoppe]

Well, I had no plans to post to this thread further, but Tom is clearly attacking me here, so I feel obligated to respond.

Tom, you said that you are disguted with my critisim, you called me a disturbed individual with no class or judgement, you said that I publicly slammed someone, and said that I make this a habbit.

Tom, I think that's a pretty harsh response. I don't know which thread you've been reading, but it's apparently not this one. I simply asked to see an example of the product, and then mentioned in response to another post, that if Martin was the veneer source, that I've seen examples where I felt the color of the mahogany was off (in the context of a Titlist tribute). This was not intended to be a "slam" nor a "disparaging comment about one of the BEST sellers with the highest principals on AZB" it is a simple fact, and has been noticed by others as well. In fact, it was noticed and acknoleged by Martin himself. In his defence, Martin says that this color was never inteded to be an exact replacement for the mahogany used in Titlist cues. I think we can all accept that, as well as applaud his efforts to then supply one that is.

Tom, it is exactly this discussion of what is good and what could use improvement that is driving Martin to seek a better solution. It is also this same discussion that will cause Lee to reach out to Martin to ask to try this new product, and it is this type of discussion that will lead to the best end product for the customers, and more business for both Lee, and Martin. If everyone noticed that the mahogany was more gold than brown, but nobody said anything about it, and only said "hey, great job Martin" do you think he would change it? Pointing out a need in the marketplace is actually very helpful him.

It's true that Martin and myself had a dissagreement in the past which resulted in a mutual agreement that I would never again buy products from him. That has been established, re-confirmed, and it's water under the bridge for the both of us. But if you think that he "bends over backwards to satisfy all his buyers" you're wrong, and I would be happy to give you the names of a couple of people that you can talk to about that. But I said nothing about that in any of my posts, that came from yours.

Tom, I think you're trying to stir up a fight here where there was a relatively constructive discussion going on. I have had positive dealings with you in the past, but I think your name calling, and your response itself, was unnecessary and clearly out of line. I would suggest that you sir, are the "disturbed individual" with "no class or judgement."

 

[Dawgie]

For you guys in business ~ Just stop this conversation. It isn't doing any of you any good. It makes you all look petty.

 

[21Gambler]

We have sets of Titlist veneers glued up and ready for the cue
4 piece set 45.00 shipped to your door these are cut on our new fixture for veneer cutting, a perfect cut every time !!!
LEVERAGE YOUR TIME.... VENEERS ARE VERY TIME CONSUMING
LET US HELP WITH YOUR VENEER NEEDS..

hmalakoff@chartermi.net

Lee please repost your thread so we can get back to the business at hand and thats purchasing Lee's quality glued veneer's, if you have any questions concerning who, what, when, where, how or any other info PLEASEEEEEEEE send Lee a PM, I am sure he will be happy to answer any and all questions you may have regarding his product's and service.

Thanks Sean

 

[brianna187]

Thanks Sean

 

[brianna187]

Thanks For All The Orders Everyone