Tips For This Shot

DrCue'sProtege said:
To those that have brains and can read and comprehend.......I appreciate your responses.

Keep the suggestions coming.
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Don't get all pissy biach. You never mentioned rotation thus the answers you got.Look its a TOUGH fkng shot even for champions which you obviously aren't. To jack up and draw whitey straight back to the rail requires a perfect stoke/contact combo. Good luck. You're gonna be there a while.
 
garczar said:
Don't get all pissy biach. You never mentioned rotation thus the answers you got.Look its a TOUGH fkng shot even for champions which you obviously aren't. To jack up and draw whitey straight back to the rail requires a perfect stoke/contact combo. Good luck. You're gonna be there a while.
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He won't see it, you have joined me on the Dr Cue Protege ban list. It's a nice club to be a member of.

The guy can't stay out of his own way.
 
u12armresl said:
He won't see it, you have joined me on the Dr Cue Protege ban list. It's a nice club to be a member of.

The guy can't stay out of his own way.
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Losers!
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I've skimmed through the thread, so my bad if this has been mentioned previously...but what about this shot do you struggle with - potting or getting enough backspin?

If potting then it's usually how you transition from regular alignment to jacked up alignment. Mirrors, lots of mirrors! Will help with this at home. Or you can video yourself and overlay some lines to see where you're going off line in the transition to jacking up.

If you struggle with getting enough draw then I believe this is an easier fix. Simply hit as low as the cushion allows with a punchy type stroke. Then practice. Lots and lots of practice.

Here we all are sounding like absolute professionals, but make no mistakes, this is a very tough shot and one that even the best in the world wouldn't enjoy playing.
 
Pidge said:
I've skimmed through the thread, so my bad if this has been mentioned previously...but what about this shot do you struggle with - potting or getting enough backspin?

If potting then it's usually how you transition from regular alignment to jacked up alignment. Mirrors, lots of mirrors! Will help with this at home. Or you can video yourself and overlay some lines to see where you're going off line in the transition to jacking up.

If you struggle with getting enough draw then I believe this is an easier fix. Simply hit as low as the cushion allows with a punchy type stroke. Then practice. Lots and lots of practice.

Here we all are sounding like absolute professionals, but make no mistakes, this is a very tough shot and one that even the best in the world wouldn't enjoy playing.
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Making shot is the worst part for me.

Drawing it back, well, about half the time.

And I agree with others - it is an extremely tough shot for even top level professionals.

PS. I see that idiot u12armresl has posted. Whatever he said is just stupid. There's a reason he is on ignore. The Mods even admitted that he is an a$$hole.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Making shot is the worst part for me.

Drawing it back, well, about half the time.

And I agree with others - it is an extremely tough shot for even top level professionals.

PS. I see that idiot u12armresl has posted. Whatever he said is just stupid. There's a reason he is on ignore. The Mods even admitted that he is an a$$hole.
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It's an alignment issue then. Either because the butt goes off the aim line as you jack up or because your hand and elbow aren't on the same plane as your cue. The latter is really common when jacking right up, for example with shorter players or jump shots.

Film yourself and see if you can spot any of these two issues arise.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:

This is a very tough shot for me. I think I've asked about this shot years ago but I couldn't find the thread.

Anyway, anybody have any tips on how to pocket the 1B and draw the CB back for the 2B in the corner?

And please, let's assume this is the only possible shot available. Don't try and circumvent here. It's a completely straight-in shot where you are jacked up over the rail.

r/DCP
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First off set it up and shoot it many times and tell me if you tend to over cut or, under cut the shot.
With that information I might be able to help.
My guess w/o seeing you execute is your not hitting straight through your chosen contact spot on the cue ball.
I practice a very similar shot such as this to get the needed feedback from my misses to adjust.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:

This is a very tough shot for me. I think I've asked about this shot years ago but I couldn't find the thread.

Anyway, anybody have any tips on how to pocket the 1B and draw the CB back for the 2B in the corner?

And please, let's assume this is the only possible shot available. Don't try and circumvent here. It's a completely straight-in shot where you are jacked up over the rail.

r/DCP
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IMO, jacked up shots are one of those specialty shots you have to devote a certain amount of time to to develop a particular technique to execute them reliably.

Pay attention to: your bridge hand placement on the rail (you can vary that quite a bit), and also how you raise your grip up for these shots. You may find that you're twisting things up in a way that is getting you set up way off line and makes delivering a perfectly straight stroke impossible. Of course, don't use english and be careful not to hop the CB.

Lou Figueroa
 
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garczar said:
Don't get all pissy biach. You never mentioned rotation thus the answers you got.Look its a TOUGH fkng shot even for champions which you obviously aren't. To jack up and draw whitey straight back to the rail requires a perfect stoke/contact combo. Good luck. You're gonna be there a while.
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He clearly said in OP: "...anybody have any tips on how to pocket the 1B and draw the CB back for the 2B in the corner?"

I'm thinking that would make you the... well, you know ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
If you're really close to the rail consider it a jump shot with draw. It's about the only way to get draw when jacked up. It's not an easy shot, you pretty much just have to practice it. Do progressive drills, start out closer to the 1B and move back as you become proficient at the closer ones.

This is one of those shots you don't want to do but if you nail it perfectly it can put your opponent on tilt. I had no choice but to do this about 3 times in a set as his favorite thing was to try to freeze the CB to the rail. After the 3rd time I did it successfully he started trying a different tactic!
 
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Tough shot. I have a strong draw but not the best at making the ball when jacked up and trying to draw it so shooting the shot this way would be my last choice.

Even if it is straight in, unless the table is really tight I'd probably consider cheating the pocket to one side or another.

If that isn't possible then I'd be looking at that 5-8 gap...a stop shot on the one looks like you'd have a window to hit that gap and at least get a shot at the 2 for a safety if you can't make the 2.

If neither of those are possible (and I question if the first one truly wouldn't be) only then would I try this shot. For jacking up I find if I move my grip had up on the cue to mid-wrap area it can help, keep the stroke short and punchy which helps me on these types of shots to maintain accuracy, and then just hope I get the right amount of draw to come back far enough without overshooting my position. That's the other reason this shot would be last choice for me, come up a little short or too long and you're stuck behind that 5, it's not a high percentage shot and I'd entertain all options before taking it on.
 
Bob looking at your red draw shot line tells me your aiming fat, that's why it draws back above the shot line.
This is exactly how my shot outcome might be, depending on the pocket size.
This is an advanced shot, most players don't have the swing rhythm/stroke to pull it off.
The spin/speed are cutting the shot.
Even the best players in the world don't like this shot for the match.
Nothing wrong with that, just the way it is.
Here's my tip..... I live and die by this.
I Always aim to slightly undercut any ball, when I have to add allot of cb speed and forward speed or both.
It becomes a feel shot as you add more and more and the two together. Those combinations cut the ball for you. ''feel shots''
bm
 
its too tough for almost anyone and a better option is there.

but he was asking how to do it not what to do. the knuckleheads as always turned it into a personal attack on the poster.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Making shot is the worst part for me.
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As others have said, accuracy on this shot (where the cue is elevated) is significantly harder for everybody, the same as it is on jump shots (which is shot from essentially the same stance), and the more you are elevated the harder it becomes.

My first suggestion is to pay close attention to which way you are missing and see if there is a pattern that gives a clue as to what it might be. If say 75% of your misses are to the left then maybe it is a stance alignment problem with that type of shot, maybe when elevated you are stroking slightly towards one side or the other instead of straight (even if you tend to stroke pretty straight on more level shots), or maybe from that angle you just aren't seeing the shot line properly (due to head/eyes not being aligned properly over the cue etc) similar to how some people don't see center ball properly and tend to always hit say right of center, etc.

If you miss both ways about the same, it could just be you are poking the ball/decelerating prior to impact instead of putting a good stroke on it, and that will jerk the cue off the line you intended and cause misses.
DrCue'sProtege said:
Drawing it back, well, about half the time.
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In my experience this is usually because you aren't putting a good committed stroke on the ball. We want to poke on this kind of shot more than just about any other kind of shot (because our subconscious is worried about the tip hitting the slate etc), and the problem when we poke is that a big part of the time we end up starting the deceleration at some point prior to hitting the cue ball and it is not even at the same place every time so we end up with inconsistent results due to not hitting the speed we intended. Plus the tip gets jerked off line when we poke as well an you may end up hitting higher or lower on the cue ball than you intended. Concentrate on putting a good committed stroke on the ball and letting the follow through happen naturally (don't worry, you will rarely hit the slate or not hard if you do) and I bet you see that draw start to get more consistent quickly on that shot.
 
Yogi said, "you can observe a lot by watching."
I watched Mike Massey hit the most extreme power shot in competition. (Well that I have seen)The last Caesars Tahoe 9 ball in '84 I think. 🤷‍♂️
I watch the white as it leaves the tip. Well for clues or perhaps feedback is more accurate. 🤷‍♂️
 
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