The older red-label tables bank short but not horrible. Newer blue-label play fine imo. Diamonds have deeper shelves than Valleys. Just aim at the middle.
The newer Diamond bar tables with the tight pockets, are the best table of all for 8 ball, perfect amount of congestion and small pockets.
Yes, 7 foot Diamonds with Simonis cloth play extremely fast, particularly the cushions. It’s best to keep your run out patterns simple with a minimum of cue ball movement as speed control can be an issue until you have adjusted to it. Our 7-foot Diamond has Andy Pro cloth, which is even faster than Simonis. It’s very tricky to adjust after playing on our 9 foot tables with Simonis.Wouldn't a 7 foot diamond be real slippery?
they play so fast, for how small the playing surface is, that is why they have the black Diamond K55 and not Artmis Intercontinental 66, they would play beyond ridiculous with those!I play almost exclusively on 9‘ and 7’ blue label Diamonds and find them all to bank a bit short. Consistent, but short of what I’d expect on say a GC. A few banks and kicks before playing is a must.
Take care with the side pockets. At more acute angles, they become pretty damn unfriendly. Especially on the 7 footers, I always at least consider the possibility of running down to a corner even if my initial thought is the side if I can accomplish the same result...
I know it sounds silly to have to say it, but @trentfromtoledo is right...
Maybe the biggest thing you’ll have to worry about, is keeping the silly looking grin off your face the next time you play on a Valley bar box!
Yep, controlling the cue ball can be a bit eye opening at first. I generally play nine footers, and moving to the seven footers for league takes a few racks!they play so fast, for how small the playing surface is, that is why they have the black Diamond K55 and not Artmis Intercontinental 66, they would play beyond ridiculous with those!
I have a 9 foot A E Schmidt with the same deep shelves as a Diamond. I'm too cheap to replace the rubber - I'd rather spend the cash on a gold crown - but over time the inside of the rail in the pockets have become concave. They reject balls like a hillbilly spitting tobacco.Side pockets are more receptive. Something to do with the cushion angles, IIRC. There is a wider range of bank angles available, using speed and spin, can be tough to get a handle on. Corners will spit out more shots, especially at speed. As far as tips, try not to end up where you have to hit a difficult shot hard, for position.